I don’t think they were censored, but I also don’t think ‘they just didn’t get it done in time,’ or at least more than just that.
I’d imagine it’s more that because of what happened, it just made the episode not work for whatever reason so they needed to redo some or all of it, which lead to the delay.
You don’t think that it is strange that nearly after 30 years of making episodes suddenly they can’t make it on time?
I think Paramount imposed 2 weeks so they can review, so they likely work close to the deadline to defy that, but Paramount requested a change so this imposed another delay.
Anyway if you look at episodes 1-4 each of them are more and more tame, the attention is taken away from trump. In the first one they were ridiculing trump in 4 he is a “fucking Satan”. Much different message. In first episode they had PSA that was done implying they will have something like that every episode (i.e. #1 of 50 - they signed a 5 year deal (5 seasons) of 10 episodes each) and it never came up again.
You don’t think that it is strange that nearly after 30 years of making episodes suddenly they can’t make it on time?
I don’t think it’s strange at all. They’re 30 years older than they were 30 years ago. “Six Days to Air” was 14 years ago, and they were pulling all nighters. They have families and lots of other projects, so it’s pretty reasonable to not want to live and work like that anymore.
They signed for 5 years and those delays were introduced in this one.
It’s also not like it is just them two only creating those episodes, majority of the work is done by other people and they got plenty of money to hire whomever they need to.
No, the writing and direction is primarily done by Trey Parker. After his “written by” credits for 325 episodes, and Matt Stone’s “written by” credits for 28 episodes, the next up are David R. Goodman for 9 episodes and Nancy Pimental for 7 episodes.
For directing, Trey Parker has credit for 311 episodes, with Eric Stough directing 15 (all before 2002) and Matt Stone directing 9.
The creative process most certainly uses a team effort, but there are two voices doing almost all of the story structure, and that’s a natural bottleneck in the process. If you’ve seen 6 Days to Air, you can see that Trey Parker and Matt Stone are very much involved.
Like I said, I do think it’s related to that, I just don’t think it was censorship. Probably made something in the episode untenable and so Matt and Trey decided to change it themselves.
Very likely yes, which would have de-railed any message they are trying to push with the show. Them self-censoring is more than likely a good thing, if that’s actually what happened and I would be inclined to believe it. By delaying they can probably come up with far more relative critiques of what has happened afterwards.
I don’t think they were censored, but I also don’t think ‘they just didn’t get it done in time,’ or at least more than just that.
I’d imagine it’s more that because of what happened, it just made the episode not work for whatever reason so they needed to redo some or all of it, which lead to the delay.
The episode didn’t live up to the absurdity of real life.
You don’t think that it is strange that nearly after 30 years of making episodes suddenly they can’t make it on time?
I think Paramount imposed 2 weeks so they can review, so they likely work close to the deadline to defy that, but Paramount requested a change so this imposed another delay.
Anyway if you look at episodes 1-4 each of them are more and more tame, the attention is taken away from trump. In the first one they were ridiculing trump in 4 he is a “fucking Satan”. Much different message. In first episode they had PSA that was done implying they will have something like that every episode (i.e. #1 of 50 - they signed a 5 year deal (5 seasons) of 10 episodes each) and it never came up again.
South Park has a pretty long history of having trouble getting their episodes out on time.
I watched them since early 2000 and don’t remember much delays, while this season was every other week.
They even had episodes ready day after election several times, last one was 2016 where they said they were totally surprised by the result.
I don’t think it’s strange at all. They’re 30 years older than they were 30 years ago. “Six Days to Air” was 14 years ago, and they were pulling all nighters. They have families and lots of other projects, so it’s pretty reasonable to not want to live and work like that anymore.
They signed for 5 years and those delays were introduced in this one.
It’s also not like it is just them two only creating those episodes, majority of the work is done by other people and they got plenty of money to hire whomever they need to.
No, the writing and direction is primarily done by Trey Parker. After his “written by” credits for 325 episodes, and Matt Stone’s “written by” credits for 28 episodes, the next up are David R. Goodman for 9 episodes and Nancy Pimental for 7 episodes.
For directing, Trey Parker has credit for 311 episodes, with Eric Stough directing 15 (all before 2002) and Matt Stone directing 9.
The creative process most certainly uses a team effort, but there are two voices doing almost all of the story structure, and that’s a natural bottleneck in the process. If you’ve seen 6 Days to Air, you can see that Trey Parker and Matt Stone are very much involved.
Like I said, I do think it’s related to that, I just don’t think it was censorship. Probably made something in the episode untenable and so Matt and Trey decided to change it themselves.
Something untenable… Like having most of the episode be jokes about a guy who just got an emergency tracheotomy performed from 300 metres away
Very likely yes, which would have de-railed any message they are trying to push with the show. Them self-censoring is more than likely a good thing, if that’s actually what happened and I would be inclined to believe it. By delaying they can probably come up with far more relative critiques of what has happened afterwards.
Exactly, and it’s really easy to imagine them waiting for shifting public opinions to see how long the kirk dick sucking would last