• tomiant@piefed.social
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    18 days ago

    I’m shocked, SHOCKED! Well not that shocked.

    What are you going to try to tell me next, that Russia is the ones who have been employing muslim extremists to carry out terror attacks all over Europe to destabilize it, or that they financed the people behind Brexit, and keep financing right wing extremists and influence elections and fuck with democracy in any and every way they can since decades??

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      18 days ago

      There has been evidence of Russia weaponizing migration and using other measures against the EU to destabilize its societies even long before the invasion of Ukraine, but it’s important that we report on that when new investigations reveal new activities imho.

      [Edit to correct a typo.]

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      18 days ago

      I wouldn’t say employing. That presumes the ‘employee’ was aware of the intentions of the ‘employer’, and acted based on that.

      Inciting is a better term, as it conveys the clandestine nature of the real intentions behind the actions.

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        18 days ago

        “How do you find Gulag? No like? We have an offer. We give you weapons and a car. You go and kill people. Your family lives and will be taken care of. Or we can put them all in Gulag too.”

        Look, I’m a criminal and have lived around criminals my whole life. I’ve also been in the army, in intelligence. I know how things work. People have this grandiose idea of how psyops and crimes are carried out.

        It’s more basic than you think.

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          18 days ago

          Except that’s not what happens, is it now?

          No. Most extremists are being fed generally false information, specifically designed to be psychological triggers, increasing one’s tendency to turn to aggression and physicality, bringing them near the point of “boiling over” then triggering it once they’re in the right place.

          Direct coersion is rarely used when psychological warfare - essentially making the extremists believe it was their own idea to commit acts of terror - is cheaper, and less likely to be traced back to you.