• maplesaga@lemmy.world
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      Ya, they dont give a shit about the environment. Hence why we produce all our goods there, as we theoretically self flagellate ourselves for climate change.

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        When I see a response like this I am reminded of “Americans wanting to be right at the cost of doing what is good.” At a certain point you should ask what is the intention behind your words?

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          A righteous thing isnt to run on climate change issues with no plan to affect things because you don’t want to touch imports.

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            Okay, but why start the framing as a problem with China? Last I checked their carbon emissions have flatlined, if we were to shift that manufacturing home it would likely be more carbon intensive due to our own inefficiencies. We could import green infrastructure but we’re a failing petro-state so here we are…

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        China is actually one of the very few countries meeting its commitments so far. They’re even a bit ahead of schedule: renewable and nuclear power plants, fleet electrification (cars and trucks, plus advanced railways), planting large forests, etc.

        Granted that won’t be sufficient, they should do more and faster, and they now see coming issues with the degradation of their soils and their water resources. But during that same time period, western countries rolled back environment policies and came back on their promises, going further and further away from adverting a catastrophe.