We have a mixed system in our federal parliament. We have a lower house made up of 150 preferential, winner-takes-all electorates, and an upper house of multi-member electorates for each state and territory elected Hare–Clark proportional representation.

My topic of discussion today is whether we would benefit from altering the lower house, and what way would you alter it (or not).

I’m personally not a fan of making the lower house as proportional as the upper house, as many government functions are legislated to be controlled by government ministers, which necessitates the lower house forming a governing coalition. This is made much harder under high levels of proportional representation (see Tasmania & many european countries).

I’m only not a fan because I think the general public doesn’t like seeing slow moving government. I actually think it’s fine.

However, I personally think a pragmatic change would be to increase the lower house MPs by 50% from 150 to 225, and then have 75 electorates of 3 members each.

This way, you retain the local representation, while removing “safe” seats that parties ignore, as it’s likely at least one member is in doubt every election.

Keen to hear people’s ideas, and pet proposals.

(Note, I am not a political scholar so won’t have used the most correct jargon.)

  • brisk@aussie.zone
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    2 小時前

    If I were designing a representative democracy from the ground up, I would have only one house with full proportional representation. I’m not compelled by any of the arguments I’ve seen in favour of multiple systems side by side like we currently have, they generally seem to sacrifice democracy in favour of convenience or “stability”

    I’m strongly of the opinion that “government” as applied in the Australian political system (ie, cabinet) should not be a single party, but nominees collectively agreed by parliament (assuming ministers are necessary).

    Going from where we are now, the lower house needs to change. Multi member electorates would be great. Otherwise, the smallest meaningful step we could take would be transitioning to a Condorcet method of counting lower house votes. That wouldn’t even require us to change the ballots!

  • AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space
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    8 小時前

    One change that could be good would be having two members per electorate rather than one; that would allow voters who were not in the majority to feel represented. Though that would work better in a system with more than two parties, so that you don’t have a stalemate with an equal number of centre-left and centre-right MPs.

    • MisterFrog@aussie.zoneOP
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      8 小時前

      I think under a preferential system people are free to preference who they actually prefer. I think the biggest reason we are the centre major parties (Labor and the LNP) is because we have single member, winner takes all elections. Meaning even if the 2PP (2-party-preferred) vote is 51% vs 49%, the winning candidate gets 100% of the control of that seat.

      In the current climate where 2PP isn’t always Labor vs LNP in every seat, I think you would see many seats have a different mix to each other.

      Out of curiosity, would you propose halving the number of electorates, or doubling the number of MPs to achieve 2 member electorates?