• hobata@lemmy.ml
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    3 days ago

    Instead of complaining about domestic prices and blaming the incompetent government for that shit, they complain about those who assessed the situation correctly and took appropriate action. Their heads are full of shit.

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      3 days ago

      No they did not, lowering prices on oil derived fuel is counter to the values that made us introduce those taxes to begin with.
      Those issues haven’t changed, like limiting our dependency on oil, and preventing CO2.

      People need to use as little oil as possible, that still goes.

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        This isn’t about people using as little oil as possible.

        This is about domestic producers being able to maximize profit off of their product.

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          Trucking companies only look at the numbers. A truck uses 35-50 l/100km. So 1€ higher diesel prices make a massive difference for an operator. An electric truck is like 100k€ more expensive then a diesel one. So if a truck drives 700km a day, then it takes like two years for the electric truck to make the money back the 1€ higher diesel price creates., if charging is very cheap.

          So this matters.

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        3 days ago

        I think you forgot to mention the stupidst German thing that would solve all the transport issues - the Lastenrad.

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            2 days ago

            I hope if you have a family you do not drive them like this.

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              I bet children being driven on a bike like that have more fun than being driven in a car.
              They are more in contact with the environment, and they are more in contact with the parent, and it’s perfectly safe.
              So why exactly would you hope that? Do you really think it’s better for the children to sit with their iPad in a soft cushioned air conditioned car? Where they have to communicate with a parent talking over the shoulder?

              IDK what country you are from, but that’s an attitude I would expect mostly from ignorant Americans.
              You would probably not send your children to this kind of kindergarten where the children are outdoor almost exclusively either:
              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forest_kindergarten

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                2 days ago

                It’s a terrible and unsafe solution to drive someone in that cab.

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                  Terrible how?
                  Many places it is as safe and sometimes even safer than a car, because many places here now have bicycle routes.
                  I hope you don’t raise kids in a country where this isn’t safe.
                  The bike is fine, it’s probably you or your country that is the problem.

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    3 days ago

    The wonderful problems politicians have to deal with. It’s like a kindergarten: “Whuaaa the other kids are cheating”.
    I’m not saying it’s not justified, but god there are a lot of “stupid” little issues politicians have to figure out.

    Personally I think lowering prices on petrol and diesel is stupid, we have taxes on that shit for good reasons, and those reasons haven’t changed. The reasons being lowering dependency on oil, which this situation is a stellar example of why we do.
    And another reason is to limit pollution/CO2 which we still need to do.

    Lowering prices on oil products is contrary to our common interests, what people and industries need to do now, is to figure out ways to reduce oil consumption more.
    People complaining about fuel prices are embarrassing IMO.