• Cethin@lemmy.zip
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    2 days ago

    I love people who are so confident that they’re the first people to think of something. You assume you must be correct just because you feel strongly about it. This has all been considered. Here’s the Anarchist wiki, for your perusal. You might learn something there if you’re actually open to learning.

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      1 day ago

      I love it that you assume I should know or care that there is an anarchist wiki. No, I certainly don’t think I was the first to think of anything, and no, you have given me no reason to want to “learn something”. I studied philosophy of government in college and have read the anarchy page on Wikipedia, have you done either?

      Give me one reason why I should bother with your (presumably) anarchist fanfic smartass and maybe I’ll bother.

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        1 day ago

        The fact you first think reading a single wiki page is sufficient, and also mention the wrong page, makes this hilarious. Little a anarchy is not the same as big A Anarchism. Anarchism is the political thought. Yes, I’ve read it.

        Give me one reason why I should bother with your (presumably) anarchist fanfic smartass and maybe I’ll bother.

        Because you have a curious mind and want to be informed. You’d rather know the solutions others have come up with for your hypothetical problems than to think no one has considered it. You’d rather find out you were uninformed and learned something new instead of thinking refusing to learn makes you feel right.

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          23 hours ago

          If I don’t study conservapedia, it’s not because I don’t have a curious mind or want to be informed. How is this any different.

          BTW, I went and looked up “Law” on your wiki, and fuck if it didn’t confirm that I had it exactly right. The only substance on the page makes it clear that laws and Anarchism are not compatible. The rest is a bunch of hand waving nonsense about community standards.

          BTW: The Wikipedia entry on “Anarchist Law” makes a hell of a better case for it. You should have sent me there.

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            22 hours ago

            The prehistoric southern levenant was peaceful for over 10,000 years despite not having any laws or police.

            Source

            Just gonna drop this info here. 👆

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              19 hours ago

              The prehistoric… Prehistoric, like “before history”? Like, before anyone would have written things down. That’s pretty convenient. Call me skeptical that they had no hierarchies or violence. Especially given that primitive primates today have hierarchies and are known to have “wars” between neighboring groups,

              How did they deal with drunk assholes driving 70 miles an hour past a playground?

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                19 hours ago

                Look, I know anarchism sounds like a childish fantasy. Thats what I tought too until I read theory.

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                  15 hours ago

                  And when you get a little older you will read more things (one might hope) and you’ll think even more differently.

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                  17 hours ago

                  None of this addresses my point at all.

                  Human brains evolved to operate in small societies and, barring extreme circumstances, we do real well in a world where 99% of the population dies within 10 miles of their birthplace. It’s when social networks grow beyond 150 or so people that things really start to break down. That’s not an issue for ancient societies, but that’s toothpaste out of the tube. We aren’t going back to that unless the human population falls to a tiny fraction of what it is now.

                  I share a dislike of hierarchy and think that we could have a whole lot less of it than we do now. If an anarchist society would actually function in the modern world, it would be a lot closer to my vision of a just society than our current world is. I think anarchist philosophy makes arguments worth making, but actual mass implementation is ridiculous. Frankly, I see it as a way for edgy Internet philosophers to excuse them from actual political activism on fronts that might actually do some good.