• Killer57@lemmy.ca
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    3 days ago

    I legitimately hate that the top sentiment in this thread seems to be nuclear bad. What bullshit propaganda.

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      2 days ago

      If you want a more nuanced take: I think nuclear is cool tech, but it’s a bad idea for economic reasons and due to the waste issues.

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          This sounds so ridiculuous, that I googled this claim. If one can even call it a claim, because you didn’t finish that sentence to form a coherent argument.

          The thing I found is this: http://large.stanford.edu/publications/coal/references/hvistendahl/

          Don’t bother reading this piece, because it doesn’t even form its general idea very well. Hence the need for a later clarification, the very last paragraph," saying:

          “*As a general clarification, ounce for ounce, coal ash released from a power plant delivers more radiation than nuclear waste shielded via water or dry cask storage.”

          Like, yeah, I don’t know if even that claim is true, but I don’t have a hard time believing it. But even if we accept that, what kind of apples to oranges comparison is that supposed to be?

          If you still want to support that claim, feel free to do so. But you better pick a better source, than the one I found…

          Unless you do, I have to assume, that you’re just regurgitating some propaganda.

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      Wow. Your comment was at the top in my sort and I thought “what kind of smooth brained moron thinks nuclear is bad?” The comment directly below says something like “nuclear bad, we don’t need it” what an incredibly stupid take. Nuclear is far safer and less radioactive than many of the energy sources we’re using. Full renewables would be awesome but let’s not just dismiss nuclear, it’s pretty awesome.

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        While nuclear may have an agreeable amount of safety, the construction of new reactors takes a lot of money and time, and their operation is dependant on the sourcing and disposing of nuclear fuel. One advantage of it might be that it produces a constant amount of electricity, but not a day goes by where solar doesn’t make power as well. So why not just go with solar then?

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          Because we can’t make an instant transition to solar and it’s far better than fossil fuels and coal. It also alleviates a lot of the storage issues with solar. All solar should be the eventual goal, but nuclear as a stop gap in the decades before we can go full green energy makes sense to me.

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            2 days ago

            Of course we can. Also, building new nuclear plants actually takes the decades you claim solar would take. Not a very good stop gap if it won’t be done before the gap you want to stop has stopped by itself now, is it?

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              Six to eight years isn’t decades, gross to just spout misinformation like that to try to prove a point. It will almost certainly take 30-40 years to get most of the planet on solar. That’s roughly 24-34 years of providing a stop gap and it doesn’t touch on needing to store and transfer solar since it can’t be collected at night after solar is the primary power source.

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                What reactor is operational in 6 to 8 years? Can you point to a recent project that went online in that timeframe? Would be interesting how much nuclear capacity cost in comparison to reweables like solar wind or hydro and long range distribution nets or batteries.

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                  Terrapower just broke ground on a new reactor in the US, it’s expected to be completed in approx 6 years. Even with significant delays it would be under 8 years and almost certainly under a decade.

                  While not touching on cost, this link shows how much more power generation you can get with nuclear compared to other sources of low carbon energy over a decade of deployment. If you need to generate a lot of energy relatively quickly and don’t have amazing hydro options, nuclear appears the most scalable.

                  https://scienceforsustainability.org/wiki/How_quickly_can_we_build_clean_energy%3F

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                  This might serve as source for those 6-8 years. It seems more like a global/historical number as the author also notes that there isn’t much recent data for the US or Europe.