• Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    I have no obligation to follow your media cycle.

    It’s clear that republican propaganda has made its way to you anyway. You repeat it without a second thought.

    and it was not my intention to be hurtful.

    You dismissed what I was saying by calling it mental illness. I can’t see how that could have been intended as anything other than gaslighting and abuse.

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      3 days ago

      The trouble you’re having is that you’re jumping to ridiculous and unhinged accusations. If you look at this very thread, I immediately changed my mind when a user pointed out that you already need photo ID for voting. But you just can’t let it go. So “you” have won the political argument, I’ve conceded like 15 comments ago. That’s the part where I think this goes beyond normal political outrage for a legitimate issue, and has probably crossed over into something that’s affecting you and your relationships on a personal level. I do not mean this as an ad hominem although I phrased it in an unhelpful way.

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        3 days ago

        unhinged

        More gaslighting.

        I immediately changed my mind when a user pointed out that you already need photo ID for voting

        Your response when someone pointed out that you already need an ID was:

        Then I have a really hard time seeing what the problem is.

        That’s not changing your mind. That’s telling people who are upset at the attempt to disenfranchise voters that they’re upset about nothing.

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          2 days ago

          That’s not changing your mind.

          That’s you reading in what you needed to hear so that you could have an unnecessary fight with someone on the internet. The rage addiction is what’s unhinged.

          You could have asked for clarification, as in: “do you mean that there’s no problem with demanding passports rather than other forms of photo ID, or do you mean that there’s no problem with verifying citizenship with the current system?” Instead you jumped from one accusation to the next, utterly unable to engage in an actual exchange.

          Oh, I know, I know, even more gaslighting, right?

          • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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            2 days ago

            That’s you reading in what you needed to hear so that you could have an unnecessary fight with someone on the internet.

            That’s me reading what was there in plain text.

            Someone explained to you what the problem was and you responded by saying you didn’t see what the problem was.

            Oh, I know, I know, even more gaslighting, right?

            It seems to be your go-to.

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              2 days ago

              Someone explained to you what the problem was and you responded by saying you didn’t see what the problem was.

              I don’t see a problem with the ID verification that you currently have in place. As in, I don’t see a problem with the verification methods that they described. Should be pretty clear?

              Every other commenter seems to have gathered as much, but sure, misunderstandings can still happen. But this thread is now pretty long, so I don’t think a misunderstanding is the problem here.

              Gaslighting is what you’re doing. If there was a misunderstanding, fine - I can clarify and that’s that. But you’re trying to tell me what I meant and where my opinions are derived from (i.e. your media cycle). That’s what gaslighting is. It has nothing to do with having different opinions or challenging someone’s views.

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                2 days ago

                You literally said I needed therapy because I disagreed with you.

                I’m done dealing with you. Go abuse someone else who doesn’t like people being disenfranchised.

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                  2 days ago

                  You do need therapy man. I’m genuinely sorry if it is unavailable to you but you’re literally looking for unnecessary fights. We’re fucking agreeing over the specifics, but for some reason you’re still pressing on and creating a conflict where there absolutely is none.

                  Good idea to quit this thread now though.

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                    2 days ago

                    You do need therapy man

                    That’s not your call to make, and it’s certainly not predicated on my disagreeing with you.