I used Vivaldi for a while and it’s fine, but Firefox is the much better alternative. You can tweek it to look the way you want (advanced options are hard to find, but many exist if you search online), and it isn’t chromium.
Not being chromium is kind of the problem, some sites don’t work right. It’s also quite hacky IME for tab management with lots of extensions fighting to try and get what Vivaldi has out of the box. I tried hard to use Firefox but it can’t really handle the tab loads I have had since 2001 and Original Opera where as Vivaldi does.
Yep, but I had scaling issues with mobile version of Firefox. Some websites show up too small, some too big, some have misplaced text. It did work to use manual scaling together with desktop site mode, but there’s no way to turn that on permanently.
I mean, I get that it can be hard to find a good UI/UX, but I think I’d sill take a look at the Hindenburg Research report. I know they’re a hedge fund that stands to gain from the firms they’re short-selling loosing in value, which is questionable, but I’m unaware of them manipulating facts. I personally don’t think it’d be comfortable trusting Opera/their owners, if they’re willing to do stuff like this.
Firefox Nightly now offers Tab strip (desktop-style tabbing) which is a mojor thing for me. It seems the scaling is now more or less OK when using “Desktop site” and manual font scaling. Drawbacks: The tabs squish when more tabs are added instead of sliding like in Opera. This is problematic with a large amount of tabs open. Also, there’s still no option to permanently enable desktop sites. I have tried setting general.useragent.override, but that breaks the scaling again. It seems there have just been some improvements to “Desktop site” mode. The home tab also doesn’t show up as a separate tab which is weird.
I wish they just kept the old mobile UI. There was even a separate tablet UI.
Have you tried Vivaldi? I know it’s been mentioned already, but they’re run by the original Opera Team, and while not FOSS, seem reasonably non-shady. I haven’t been able to find good Opera Screenshots online so I’m not sure how it compares, but they do have a tab bar on top, and are quite customisable in general.
Here are some Screenshots from the app on my phone:
Wild to read this on Opera (Android). Unfortunately, the UI of Opera wins on large screens.
Try Vivaldi, the spiritual successor of the original Opera team.
Thanks. That seems like a good enough alternative.
I used Vivaldi for a while and it’s fine, but Firefox is the much better alternative. You can tweek it to look the way you want (advanced options are hard to find, but many exist if you search online), and it isn’t chromium.
Not being chromium is kind of the problem, some sites don’t work right. It’s also quite hacky IME for tab management with lots of extensions fighting to try and get what Vivaldi has out of the box. I tried hard to use Firefox but it can’t really handle the tab loads I have had since 2001 and Original Opera where as Vivaldi does.
Yep, but I had scaling issues with mobile version of Firefox. Some websites show up too small, some too big, some have misplaced text. It did work to use manual scaling together with desktop site mode, but there’s no way to turn that on permanently.
I mean, I get that it can be hard to find a good UI/UX, but I think I’d sill take a look at the Hindenburg Research report. I know they’re a hedge fund that stands to gain from the firms they’re short-selling loosing in value, which is questionable, but I’m unaware of them manipulating facts. I personally don’t think it’d be comfortable trusting Opera/their owners, if they’re willing to do stuff like this.
I tried to give Firefox and Mull a go again.
Mull hasn’t changed.
Firefox Nightly now offers Tab strip (desktop-style tabbing) which is a mojor thing for me. It seems the scaling is now more or less OK when using “Desktop site” and manual font scaling. Drawbacks: The tabs squish when more tabs are added instead of sliding like in Opera. This is problematic with a large amount of tabs open. Also, there’s still no option to permanently enable desktop sites. I have tried setting
general.useragent.override, but that breaks the scaling again. It seems there have just been some improvements to “Desktop site” mode. The home tab also doesn’t show up as a separate tab which is weird.I wish they just kept the old mobile UI. There was even a separate tablet UI.
Have you tried Vivaldi? I know it’s been mentioned already, but they’re run by the original Opera Team, and while not FOSS, seem reasonably non-shady. I haven’t been able to find good Opera Screenshots online so I’m not sure how it compares, but they do have a tab bar on top, and are quite customisable in general.
Here are some Screenshots from the app on my phone:
Yep, like 5 minutes ago. Seems mostly good.
Here’s some screenshots from Opera:
Yes, ironically my keyboard background is AI generated Firefox logo.
Yeah, Opera does look good, but I don’t think Vivaldi’s all that different. Why the Firefoxy keyboard, though? Just aesthetic preference?