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End-to-end encrypted file sharing may sound simple, but for Cryptee, it took five years to ship. In this interview, Henry sits down with John Ozbay, founder and CEO of Cryptee, to talk through why: preventing CSAM, why client-side scanning doesn’t work, how Cryptee’s solution was designed to raise the barrier to mass spread without compromising encryption, and the broader philosophical question of where developer liability ends and moral responsibility begins.

The interview is about finding the relevant nuance to be able to have the right conversation.

TIMESTAMPS

00:00:00 INTRO

00:04:08 E2EE SHARING HESITATIONS

00:14:09 HOW IS BIG TECH HANDLING THIS?

00:16:24 LOCAL SCANNING

00:19:27 HOW ARE CHAT APPS HANDLING THIS?

00:21:24 E2EE BACKUPS

00:22:40 HOW MUCH IS THIS CONSIDERED?

00:25:38 CRYPTEE’S SOLUTION

00:42:09 THREAT MODELING

00:48:18 MEGA’S APPROACH

00:53:16 LIABILITY VS. RESPONSIBILITY

01:01:40 HOW TO ENGAGE PRODUCTIVELY

01:09:48 CHAT CONTROL & ULTERIOR MOTIVES

01:21:34 IS CHAT CONTROL DEAD?

01:25:33 HOW JOHN GOT INVOLVED

01:34:44 CHANGING OVER TIME + RIGHT TO REPAIR + LINUX

01:41:32 CLOSING THOUGHTS