• Krono@lemmy.today
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    3 days ago

    Wait, so now you have “consistently acknowledged” that the US has legalized slavery enshrined in the Constitution? This is very confusing, as we can all scroll up and see your earlier comments.

    There is no form of slavery in the U.S. that is supported by either the government or the general public.

    We do not have legal slavery.

    A real patriot acknowledges their country’s faults, no matter how difficult this may be. A real patriot does not stick their head in the sand and make excuses about “the faults of every other nation”. I get the strong impression that you are not a real patriot.

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          2 days ago

          At least I don’t deny the reality of slavery happening in my country, now finally:

          Fuck off, if you’re going to continue to deny reality I’m not going to bother reading your drivel. We’re done here.

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              2 days ago

              Fuck off, if you’re going to continue to deny reality I’m not going to bother reading your drivel. We’re done here.

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                2 days ago

                slavery is illegal in America. I will continue to beat this objective fact into you until you admit that it is true.

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                  2 days ago

                  Slavery is baked into your constitution, and the majority of states continue to use slave labor to this day. Are you fucking mental?

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                    1 day ago

                    Exactly. You keep making the same assertion over and over, then acting surprised when I don’t agree with you.

                    No state in the United States uses slave labor in any way. If you’re alluding to the exception clause in the 13th Amendment, I’ve already explained why I don’t consider that equivalent to the antebellum system of chattel slavery. I’ve also pointed out that there is significant debate over whether that clause constitutes “slavery” at all, and that incarcerated people retain numerous constitutional rights despite being imprisoned.

                    Are you going to concede this objectively verifiable fact, or are you going to continue acting surprised that I reject the claim that slavery exists in the United States?

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      2 days ago

      Feel free to check my comment history at any point. I’ve admonished America on many levels. We have very serious problems, and I even acknowledged that in the comment above.

      I’ll tell you what I tell everybody else: antebellum chattel slavery in the United States is not the same thing as requiring labor from a convicted felon. Even then, incarcerated felons retain a multitude of constitutional rights.

      You have no reason to believe what I’m about to tell you because I have no way to prove it. But I’ve done time in the U.S. prison system, so I’m uniquely familiar with that environment. As flawed as our court system is, and as dysfunctional as some of our prisons are, I can tell you that I and the people I served time with deserved to be there.

      Does our prison system need reform? Absolutely. Probably more than almost any other institution in the United States right now.

      I also stand up for my country when I see people making unsubstantiated blanket statements about things they know nothing about. Many of them probably learned about America’s problems through their own state-run or heavily biased media.

      The rest of the world often dislikes America, and sometimes for legitimate reasons. But that doesn’t mean I’m going to sit quietly while some bloke on Lemmy badmouths the country I love.

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        1 day ago

        This comment was removed and the user continues to deny the US uses slave labor, AND THAT HIS COMMENTS WERE REMOVED. Denial of objective reality.

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          1 day ago

          None of my comments have been removed. You’re literally commenting under my comment… That is still up.

          Dude. You’re losing it man.