As the title says, i recently got banned from lemmy.world because they use regex (or a similiar mechanism) to ban someone instance-wide even if you write that thing on another instance
The mod log for whoever is interessed: https://feddit.it/modlog?page=1&actionType=ModBanFromCommunity&userId=20251941

Anyway, the culprit comment was this: https://feddit.it/comment/20981739

Apparently it banned me because i cited the blacklist that contained some URL or word that .world doesn’t like
Also, i had to use this 2nd account to write this post because i couldn’t access this community in my main one (it’s not an instance problem because when logged out i can find the community on feddit.it)

Honestly, i hope that .world admins wake up and understand that automated bans with regex are not the way and doing that on other instances is even worse!

  • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.comM
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    22 hours ago

    Sadly that’s the issue with automoderators. Our own threativore has built-in functionality where you can PM it directly with the moderation-action code and the admins get a notification to reverse easily.

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      10 hours ago

      Honestly at this point it’s looking nothing like automod and entirely like a surreptitious attempt to control the damned fediverse

      Edit: nailed it.

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        3 hours ago

        Badmiral is mad they got caught. What a snowflake.

        If this pisses you off because I took your toy away, if this triggers you because, god forbid, people just have to hear the violent crazies no matter what, fine, I don’t care.

        Always, always, always, projection with these people

    • MrKaplan@lemmy.world
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      22 hours ago

      our team also gets notified about automod actions, but sometimes there is nobody available to deal with it immediately. we typically undo false-positives within an hour, and for most users it doesn’t have to be requested, as it’s obvious from context when it’s legitimate content.

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        22 hours ago

        Hm, if you have to review all auto-mod actions, I can imagine that at some point people will stop paying attention. I find it better to be notified only when you have to do something (such as with an appeal request)

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          22 hours ago

          we currently don’t have that many automod actions that it would be problematic. often we don’t even have a single one in a day. the notifications also include additional information about the user and reason to help with the review.

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    2 days ago

    I went to take a look at the modlog you linked and they unbanned you twenty minutes ago, so apparently someone did “wake up.”

    Agreed that regex isn’t the way to go, though.

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    2 days ago

    I once got one for linking to a domain commonly used by spammers. I forget the context of why exactly, but it got reversed pretty quick without a big fuss. Given the volume there compared to others some type of automation would be needed without paid mods on staff.

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      The problem is that they ban you for something you wrote on another instance! The comment was on a lemmy.ml community on my feddit.it account, that’s something they shouldn’t even care about to begin with!

      And still, the automation is just some bot that check for a regex so it’s not that great either…

      • MrKaplan@lemmy.world
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        22 hours ago

        would you prefer an All feed on your instance that is filled with advertisements? of course we care about content that is posted to other instances in certain categories, like spam or illegal material.

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        1 day ago

        Today?

        Zionists turbolibs decided to patch a stealth update into a lemmy front end that one of them makes, that bans a whole bunch of leftist instances and users… along with a bunch of blahaj, because fuck them queers too, I guess?

        db0 essentially discovered it during updating to a new lemmy version, this has led to much popcorn, very alot of salt.

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          23 hours ago

          But that was done by the dev of Tesseract, not by the people running Lemmy.world

  • Universal Monk@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    2 days ago

    I know they have unbanned you by now, but hopefully the experience has made you realize that you would be happier on a different instance. Join us! :)