It sounds like a lot of people just try to passively memorize vocabulary and read a bunch of stuff and whatnot?

I uh, haven’t been doing that. >,>

I picked up German and after doing a few things of Nicos Weg, I was grabbing words off wiktionary, looking up grammar, and trying to say stuff. Oftentimes varying levels of hilariously wrong (shoutout to the time I said “ausm Artzt” and sounded like I’m a chest burster coming out of the doctor). It’s super fun and I think personally way more engaging than just trying to memorize stuff without being able to use it. It also naturally exposes us to a bunch of random helpful semi-advanced grammar concepts, to be able to say things like “we really need to take a shower and we STILL haven’t eaten anything”.

Started picking up Chinese today and I’m doing the same thing: look up words, look up grammar, bang out sentences. It’s definitely slower going than German though!

Yet everywhere I look (at least for Japanese stuff), I see “oh don’t do output at first! you need to memorize a bunch of shit and be able to read things and THEN you can start talking”. Surely we’re not alone in how we learn though?

– Frost