This is just bad faith/trollig at this point. Won’t delete it though, since you are the obvious troll wanting to reinflame a leftist infight and all other people in this thread seem to know that or at least don’t rise to this provocation.
I know approximately zero about feddit.org other than something I read yesterday that said you guys strictly adhere to and enforce German antisemitism law, which includes not maligning Israel.
As you can imagine, this post was a surprise to me, as is the level of snark you’re giving the person you responded to.
It seems to be a pervasive enough rumor that you should not assume that people who believe it are operating in bad faith.
It’s quite obvious that they’re trying to troll, also keeping in mind the long story of the db0-fedditOrg leftist infight*. From your perspective their comment could read like a dog whistle: You don’t understand the full meaning since you don’t know enough about the instances’ beef. But from their and our perspective it’s an obvious attempt to reinflame tensions between the instances.
They could have choosen to actually have a discussion, but just having a look at the thread they linked tells me that they don’t want to.
TL;DR: No need to discuss anything other than: “Ok, we get it, you wanna troll, but we don’t fall for it, thanks for your efforts.”
There is no German antisemitism law. These rules either are a sheepish kind of preemptive obedience, as the German state represses unwanted discussions about the genocide and the mods are afraid to get into trouble and act in support to that repression, or the rules are ideologically based, which basically means they‘re supporting the Zionist project and the genocide, but either don‘t like to discuss their views or are afraid to be confronted with them.
3 of the main 5 comms have explicit rules to avoid the topic and its discussion, without actual legal necessity.
That’s not true as far as I’ve been led to believe, especially from rumors I’ve heard about the moderation here, but all the web searches I was willing to commit the time to only gave results for their most recent bill to outright criminalize criticism of Israel.
Yes, it‘s being considered to create such a law for Israel, so it would become nearly impossible to discuss Germany‘s role in the genicode, since you could easily get reported for the most minor things.
Currently you’d usually be confronted with an anti-semite accusation, if you criticize Israel slightly too harsh, from which the state prosecutor would have to make a case for hate speech, and that’s just not a thing in this context.
But that‘s what I‘m saying, the feddit comms do this preemptively, without the law even being a thing.
The europe comm rule says „don‘t question the statehood of Israel“.
The DACH and Deutschland comm‘s even go as far as to delete posts about the topic, per their own rule.
There are no more comms significant enough, other than ich_iel, which has no such rule, but is a meme comm. I don‘t know, yet, how they handle the topic. It‘s fairly large, but not really that relevant here.
This is just bad faith/trollig at this point. Won’t delete it though, since you are the obvious troll wanting to reinflame a leftist infight and all other people in this thread seem to know that or at least don’t rise to this provocation.
I know approximately zero about feddit.org other than something I read yesterday that said you guys strictly adhere to and enforce German antisemitism law, which includes not maligning Israel.
As you can imagine, this post was a surprise to me, as is the level of snark you’re giving the person you responded to.
It seems to be a pervasive enough rumor that you should not assume that people who believe it are operating in bad faith.
It’s quite obvious that they’re trying to troll, also keeping in mind the long story of the db0-fedditOrg leftist infight*. From your perspective their comment could read like a dog whistle: You don’t understand the full meaning since you don’t know enough about the instances’ beef. But from their and our perspective it’s an obvious attempt to reinflame tensions between the instances. They could have choosen to actually have a discussion, but just having a look at the thread they linked tells me that they don’t want to.
TL;DR: No need to discuss anything other than: “Ok, we get it, you wanna troll, but we don’t fall for it, thanks for your efforts.”
Thank you for your attention.
* https://lem.lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/38803322
https://feddit.org/post/26030298
https://lemmy.world/post/46134766/23464842
https://feddit.org/post/29175893
E: (Domain) formatting
There is no German antisemitism law. These rules either are a sheepish kind of preemptive obedience, as the German state represses unwanted discussions about the genocide and the mods are afraid to get into trouble and act in support to that repression, or the rules are ideologically based, which basically means they‘re supporting the Zionist project and the genocide, but either don‘t like to discuss their views or are afraid to be confronted with them.
3 of the main 5 comms have explicit rules to avoid the topic and its discussion, without actual legal necessity.
That’s not true as far as I’ve been led to believe, especially from rumors I’ve heard about the moderation here, but all the web searches I was willing to commit the time to only gave results for their most recent bill to outright criminalize criticism of Israel.
Yes, it‘s being considered to create such a law for Israel, so it would become nearly impossible to discuss Germany‘s role in the genicode, since you could easily get reported for the most minor things. Currently you’d usually be confronted with an anti-semite accusation, if you criticize Israel slightly too harsh, from which the state prosecutor would have to make a case for hate speech, and that’s just not a thing in this context.
But that‘s what I‘m saying, the feddit comms do this preemptively, without the law even being a thing.
The europe comm rule says „don‘t question the statehood of Israel“.
The DACH and Deutschland comm‘s even go as far as to delete posts about the topic, per their own rule.
There are no more comms significant enough, other than ich_iel, which has no such rule, but is a meme comm. I don‘t know, yet, how they handle the topic. It‘s fairly large, but not really that relevant here.
I wrote a comment with more details
Yeah this is a whole mess I don’t know if I have the time and energy to pick apart, but I’m glad someone is out there trying to.
In closing:
I don’t like what Israel is doing to Palestine. If that means I’m a criminal in Germany or should be banned from this instance, so be it.