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wikipediasuckscoop@lemmy.worldBanned from community to Technology@lemmy.worldEnglish · 5 months ago

Is the Wikimedia Foundation about to sell out its editors—and its principles?

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Is the Wikimedia Foundation about to sell out its editors—and its principles?

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wikipediasuckscoop@lemmy.worldBanned from community to Technology@lemmy.worldEnglish · 5 months ago
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At a time of rising authoritarianism, the Wikimedia Foundation faces a choice it may celebrate—or regret—forever
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  • Dupree878@lemmy.world
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    So block the article in India but there’s no reason to block it in the rest of the world. Fuck India’s government gonna do to them?

    • tb_@lemmy.world
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      We were blocked in Turkey for 3 years or so, and fought all the way to the Supreme Court and won. Nothing has changed about our principles. The difference in this case is that the short term legal requirements in order to not wreck the long term chance of victory made this a necessary step.

      Hopefully not block the entire website in India.

      • Lorem Ipsum dolor sit amet@lemmy.world
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        Why? VPNs exist and fuck Modi

        • wikipediasuckscoop@lemmy.worldBanned from communityOP
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          Wikipedia unfortunately has a policy of blocking so-called open proxies.

          • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:NOOPENPROXIES
  • stinky@redlemmy.com
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    What’s going on here?

    • Kairos@lemmy.today
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      https://www.thewikipedian.net/p/wmf-bjp-court-order-sell-out-principles

      Edit: Don’t downvote this person please. They just phrased their question badly.

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        And that’s only the tip of the iceberg.

        https://www.reddit.com/r/justwikipediathings/wiki/index

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    It’s likely that the editors and principles have been betrayed by this point and thus Encycla and ibis.wiki should be the places we can flock to.

    Edit: What’s going on with the downvotes? What is despicable or freakish about discussing Wikipedia through a critical lens?

    X, for example, is discussed through a critical lens ad nauseum in many mainstream publications throughout the English-speaking world. Do you find that despicable, too?

    Wikipedia has very big problems that profoundly effect public discourse. Yet almost nobody knows about them.

    Out of curiosity, why is criticism of Wikipedia so infuriating to you? You can just take a look at what Tracing Woodgrains had written about Wikipedia or rather, the following by Aaron Swartz who’ve seen the problems far away.

    http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/wikiroads

    I’ll be blunt here for die-hard defenders of Wikipedia; are you going to die on a wrong hill where the Andrew Tate fanboys are currently on just because of a website and institution which is far from perfect just like X, Meta, and United Nations?

    • KazuyaDarklight@lemmy.world
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      First time I’m hearing about either of these which is going to be a problem.

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        I hadn’t either but tbf most people hadn’t heard of the fediverse until that Reddit thing. In this case the entirety of Wikipedia could along with an exodus, should one be warranted

        • ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          Most people still haven’t heard of the fediverse. We’re in a tiny bubble here, an insignificant fraction standing disconnected from the vast majority of the population.

    • Aatube@kbin.melroy.org
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      In response to your edits:

      Have you actually read your replies?

      • wikipediasuckscoop@lemmy.worldBanned from communityOP
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        That edit was intended for people who downvoted the comment for unknown reasons.

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    Update: They’ve already “sold out” the editors.

    https://genderdesk.wordpress.com/2024/12/21/does-wikipedia-protect-your-privacy/

    Anyone can take a look at what the Wikipedia editors themselves are saying about the matter.

    • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:2024_open_letter_to_the_Wikimedia_Foundation

    • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Community_response_to_Asian_News_International_vs._Wikimedia_Foundation

    • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:ANI_vs._WMF_Delhi_court

    The admins from India have only been accused of defamation. Now that the court has their identities, the actual statements will be examined to see if they do actually contain defamation. So anyone can go on a fishing expedition to get someone’s identity, and then say ‘oops, no laws were broken after all’, and now that we know who you are, it would be a shame if someone fell out of a window or something. And of course whatever is in the “sealed” document is now out, India is one of the biggest places for bribery there is. They are also saying the documents will be unsealed at the end of the court case, so it might be cheaper to just wait until they are published.

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