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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.ml to Technology@lemmygrad.mlEnglish · 7 days ago

So what I'm reading is that they're either making a gentleman's agreement to let Chinese labs run circles around them or the easy gains are over and they're now running into a wall

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So what I'm reading is that they're either making a gentleman's agreement to let Chinese labs run circles around them or the easy gains are over and they're now running into a wall

☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.ml to Technology@lemmygrad.mlEnglish · 7 days ago
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    If you pair the above (including https://darioamodei.com/post/we-must-pace-the-frontier from @loathesome_dongeater@spectreofcommunism.boo post) with the below…

    US urged to consider military strikes to stop China achieving AGI first https://www.scmp.com/news/us/article/3366284/us-urged-consider-military-strikes-stop-china-achieving-agi-first …

    … then it looks like an attempt to take a further dive into war economy while maintaining investor cash flow and delay economic collapse. The thing I am not sure about is what their strategy will be about the critical minerals bottleneck; maybe raid their “backyard” (the Americas) and double down on influence in the Heartlands. I wonder in doing the former they will be inadvertantly accelerating:

    https://chateauschmatte.substack.com/p/theses-on-mexicanism-americanism

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      Yeah, the rare eartths are the elephant in the room. Even under the most aggressive diversification scenarios China is projected to have 80% of the global refining capacity into 2040. I did a deep dive into the whole thing a little while back https://dialecticaldispatches.substack.com/p/the-bifurcated-market

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        Looks like an interesting read! Thanks for taking the time to write it up

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          O7

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      Oh i can tell you about critical minerals.

      Have you heard of ameristralia? We may as well not be a sovereign nation we are americas south pacific permanent military base and neither of our 2 main parties has any interest in breaking away from america anytime soon.

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        https://www.spf.org/en/units_japan-us-and-security-studies/document-detail062.html

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          That i believe is current capacity, Australia is pouring billions into developing critical metals to sell to the americans or more likely juat out them have it for sweet fuck all because why should the mineral wealth of the nation be used to benefit the nation as a whole when we can make a couple of rich assholes richer

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            The issue isn’t really with the mining, it’s the refining technology. China spent decades investing into figuring out how to do this and perfecting this tech. The West can’t replicate that overnight regardless of how much money they throw at the problem.

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        Of course - Pine Gap, AUKUS, extradition treaties (eg betrayal against Assange), provider of war criminals abetting the US geopolitical massacres, and home of ASPI (to name a few).

        However, I thought most of the export market for the metals is China?

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        Didn’t they defacto coup Australia once? After a prime minister wanted to close down that base in the center of Australia?

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          I believe you are referring to Whitlam, but the actual answer here is no they didnt do it once they mkre the likely did it twice with Whitlam getting too socialist and wanting to be less reliant on the US and Kevin Rudd being well al i can figure is he spoke mandarin which means he was too pro China for thier liking. I beleive they had a hand in both, the Whitlam dismissal seems almost certainly to have american involvement though

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          That rings a bell - unless I got it mixed up /misremembered they got UK’s Queen Elizabeth II to invoke some old law to override the Australian PM.

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            Yes exactly that!

            My teacher once called me stupid because I said the Queen once used her powers to override the PM of Australia - so I kept remembering that incident .

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              I completely forgot about that till you mentioned it.

              I think he was lucky enough to survive as opposed to the Swedish Olof Palme (https://redsails.org/why-marxism/) who I’m pretty sure got assasinated by the US for going against the empire. If you read the accused summary bit at the top of the wiki article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Olof_Palme you can see how dodgy it all is and the state effectively deciding not to pursue it any further. That could have been potentially the Australian PM’s fate if things turned out a different way.

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