At the core, MAGA and similar high-control groups reject universal systems that reduce suffering, like healthcare, paid leave and climate action, because they require shared responsibility, which conflicts with their hyper-individualist, anti-collectivist worldview. Instead, they promote piecemeal, market-based solutions that prioritize corporate profits while shifting costs to individuals.
This isn’t just bad policy, it’s a deliberate choice to maintain power for a few at the expense of many. Many countries have much lower per-capita costs, better health outcomes and longer life expectancy than the US. Even red states like Arkansas and Montana expanded Medicaid and saw reduced mortality, lower medical debt and improved mental health.
These solutions work when seriously implemented, and they would work here too if enough people prioritized collective well-being over selfish ideologies masquerading as virtue. The decline in quality-of-life measures in the U.S. over the past decade reflects this failure. Doubling down will make all this worse, even though the propaganda from controlling groups will keep blaming minorities and other red herrings and many will fall for it as they do sadly. We really can break free from the indoctrination and see the truth!
Trauma bonding as a political movement.
I always notice that one thing that’s rarely discussed is that there’s more to it than just healthcare. Essentially, it’s a way to train medical staff. Imagine if you took your car to a mechanic and they said well I’ve only fixed three cars in my life, wish me luck!
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Fuck, man, our Nazis are not even as good as the actual Nazis.
Universal Healthcare are threaten everywhere, not because their are not balanced. Lobby from Insurance company made politics diminish income from healthcare and legalize private solution.
For example in France, the healthcare system covered almost everything and was balanced fo decade (1946 - 2000), thanks to a socialization of income. At first the system was own only by Trade Unions, but now half of it’s leaders come from the bosses association.
In Europe, we have to fight against the US models for decades, and we have lost some of our health coverage because of the privatization. As an example among many death and suffering, this year is a record of death-born in France.
Better start making more babies if you want to keep your universal healthcare tbh. Coverage WILL worsen as the average age of a society goes up, unless you still have colonies to exploit of course.
… or to take the wealth of the bourgeoisie, or even better expropriating it and get the wealth of our industries, or welcome more refugees. Fuck natalism and nationalism
its even funnier when you realise american taxpayers pay for israels universal healthcare
It’s even funnier/darker when you realize that conservatives and neoliberals have been trying to defund and destroy universal healthcare for multiple decades in every single country.
It’s so evidently successful to the average citizen that decades of big money propaganda focused on it’s destruction has failed.
Several conservative governments in Australia have considered ditching it, but they also wanted to get reelected. All the non-conservative politicians had to do was point at the US as an example of what would happen if it was dropped and the conservatives ditched the ditching.
They should try gerrymandering, election rigging, and voter disenfranchisement after fucking their constituency to combat that reelection problem, works a charm in the US
Thankfully we have an independent organisation that sets electoral boundaries and administers elections (the Australian Electoral Commission) as well as mandatory voting (including imprisoned populations), so that shit isn’t really a viable option here. We have our issues, to be sure, but those pillars of our democracy have been strong for a long time. It’s part of the reason why it took so damn long for a right-wing populist party to gain real significance, and they’ve not yet been properly tested electorally so we don’t even know if the polls will deliver them a decent amount of seats, let alone a chance at government.
And Universal Healthcare would be cheaper for everyone than what we have now. Because we actually do kinda have it in the dumbest, most-expensive way possible.
Hospitals don’t just watch you die if you can’t afford to pay. They still treat you. It just puts you into crippling debt while everyone else pays more. With Universal healthcare, everybody would pitch in like they already do, and nobody would go into debt over it.
You pay for it multiple times in this system.
- You pay the government to fund medicare (even if you’re ineligible; which is fine, except that everyone should be eligible because healthcare should be treated as a public good and made universal).
- You pay your insurance company for your healthcare policy (often multiple policies because they don’t offer it all-in-one: vision and hearing is a separate policy; dental is a separate policy; often mental health is a separate policy; and sometimes even primary care, emergency care, and prescriptions are all separate policies).
- You pay the healthcare provider when you receive treatment, because it either isn’t covered, or your claim gets denied, or you haven’t reached your deductible yet, or the copay is high.
- Sometimes you even have to reimburse your insurance company, despite paying for your treatment out of pocket, because your insurance company decided to say fuck you and they have more expensive lawyers than you do.
Like, just cut out the middle-man. The only reason healthcare is even as expensive as it is here is because providers know they can bill insurance out they ass anyway. A single-payer healthcare system where the government pays the bill enables the health department to negotiate reasonable price caps, and will save the taxpayers money in the end. It’ll also save the treasury money, and most importantly, it’ll save the patients from crippling debt.
The only one who would get screwed is the predatory insurance industry which shouldn’t exist anyway. Oh and the privately-owned, for-profit healthcare model. The actual medical personnel will be fine though. Arguably better off, because it gets greedy investor decisions out of their human resources departments.
But in America nobody wants it, support for universal healthcare is barely above 70%!
Also, approval for universal healthcare in the US is even higher than that when you disregard what the over-65 crowd think. You should disregard their opinions because they are the ones most against universal healthcare but are receiving universal healthcare themselves (Medicare). If you’re gonna accept free healthcare for yourself and shit on anyone else who wants it, yes I think your opinion on it shouldn’t matter.
Fucking Israel only has universal healthcare because we in the US pay for it! Fucking bullshit they get it and we don’t but we are paying for it.
The fucking bullshit is US imperialism. You have been bankrolling Israel for your benefit, i.e. to be able to militarily coerce the gulf states into upholding the petrodollar system. You have not been “nice and naive”, you have literally been complicit in genocide for monetary gain.
Don’t be mean! They have not been colonizing for their own benefit!
They all did it for Israel’s benefit of course!
Source?
I am in Australia, and I can guarantee you that there are lobbyists in the capital every single day trying to have it stopped.
The US also wants it stopped.
In Australia. Our government’s bargaining over the price of pharmaceuticals under the PBS has caused massive pressure by big US drug companies. A great many drugs have their prices capped in this country. Trump’s boys have been jumping up and down threatening this and that for us to adopt a more lethal regime.
However, it was the same under Obama, so it’s the US system at fault not just the present adminstration.
100% the liberal party loath it. John Howard had a crack at weakening it by pushing more people to private health cover with his levies.
The Liberals did privatise Medibank, which was the predecessor to Medicare. It took 13 years of successive Labor governments to make Medicare untouchable. If, god forbid, One Nation does get up we will end up in the right column.
I’m worried Canada might end up being the first one.
Fuck Doug Ford
unfortunately not true.
for example, Spain ended universal healthcare on 2012. it was recovered fully just this years
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Japan 1938
Maybe not universal…
This probably says 1941 because it’s when “all” retirees became automatically insured, but earlier or later would also be a good answer.
Otto von Bismarck instated a rudimentary system (German language link) covering only poorer workers and their families in 1883, but that expanded to cover everyone gradually and was then taken away from multiple groups in the 1930s and 1940s until it was reinstated for all in 1949.
That’s why they won’t let US citizens have it, and pretend it’s something else when they get old enough for Medicare.
Mexico. Add Mexico
NHS costs 4600$ per recipient.
Current US public spending on healthcare (Medicaid, medicare, ACA subsidies, Veteran healthcare…) is 5600$ per capita (not recipient)…
We could lower taxes and give everyone free healthcare.
Fuck it, that extra 1000$ can go straight to the president pocket if he gives us Medicare for all.
Honestly, present that to him, that’s the best way to get positive change these days.
Would be funny if he enacted a bunch of socialist policy just so he could make a one time profit, but leaving us all in a better place in the long run. Too bad his pedo buddies won’t allow it.
Not the worst plan. But even with a zero risk, easy win like that I’m pretty sure he’d still think he’s getting screwed in the deal and demand the values flipped.
The NHS is rapidly enshitifying and jumping in bed with AI and Palantir. Privatising has been a Conservative wet dream for a long time. Check back soon. We might be on the list on the right.
used as example of comprehensive healthcare,
It still provides healthcare,
US is the third largest spender of public funds in healthcare, and when it comes to quality it ranks bellow Kazachtan.
Not directly comparable dollar to dollar, American doctors and (traveling) nurses are paid amoral amounts of money in many cases. Would still be significantly cheaper overall than the current system.
if you want to get angry, compare us drug prices with other countries (without subsidies or insurance).
I appreciate the sentiment but let’s be real about Australia’s adoption of universal healthcare:
- Medibank begins in 1975 after the passing of legislation by a joint sitting of Parliament on 7 August 1974. It had only a short period of operation before the Whitlam government was dismissed in what amounted to an attempted coup by the conservatives. (With some backing from a particular US Ambassador nicknamed “the coup-master” who was close to Rupert Murdoch and the Governer General.)
- 1976–1981: The conservative Malcolm Fraser Coalition government unwinds Medibank, scaling back universal funding and promoting private options.
- 1984: The Hawke government introduces the highly controversial Medicare system. It established basic health care for all Australians. It offers free-ish public hospital care, and “bulk-billing” for GPs through an income tax levy and creates a blended public system with private provider options.
- 1986: Edelsten pioneers the concept of 24-hour “superclinics” that offered completely bulk-billed services. Patients flock to his clinics which feature chandeliers, grand pianos, and mink-covered examination tables as his underlying business model was heavily driven by maximizing Medicare billing in a $100m overservicing scheme.
- 1997: Following a failed attempt to end the Medicare scheme while in opposition, the Howard government introduces the Medicare Levy Surcharge (MLS). This penalises high-income earners an extra 1.00% if they do not hold private hospital insurance. They also introduce the Lifetime Health Cover (LHC) charge which means if you’re over 30 and buy private hospital cover later in life, you are charged an extra 2% for every year you were aged over 30 without cover in a scheme explicitly designed to prop up the private system.
- 2013: The Gillard Labor government puts a “temporary” freeze on GP rebates as a budget-saving measure. This continues under successive governments until 2022, as government rebates fail to rise with inflation or the true cost of running a clinic, GPs are increasingly forced to abandon bulk-billing and charge patients high out-of-pocket private fees effectively killing the system by proxy.
- 2014: The NDIS is established to create a parallel social insurance architecture for long-term disability supports are funded with a 0.5% Medicare levy increase but funding for the NDIS is instantly being outpaced by demand.
- 2024: Reforms by the Albanese government to curb escalating costs and tighten rules around plan budgets and provider registration cut millions from receiving NDIS funding. However they also increase the rebate to make bulk billing once again viable for GPs.
The lesson is this. There are no permanent victories.
Yes, the reality is more nuanced than this list implies. In the UK and NZ the system is being aggressively attacked with more and more private companies getting a foothold in the public system.
