If only Democrats had the stones to do this.

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      And if he does? Preferring a neoliberal to a fascist does not make one a neoliberal, especially if a neoliberal has a better shot at preventing a fascist from gaining office than a leftist. Bernie is a social democrat and a pragmatist, and if that’s not left enough for you than say that, but don’t get your ideologies confused.

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        Everyone has already forgotten what happened when the DNC used Bernie to try to bait and switch his voters for Hilary. We might be cooked if everyone has already forgotten this strategy doesn’t work.

        The DNC Neoliberals also funded fringe right wing campaigns to give themselves easy competition, and instead lost to them. Making them partially responsible for Trump ever gaining power, they paved the road every step of the way through fucking insane excuses that limp fuck neolibs just keep lapping up like dogs.

        I personally can’t ever vote for another Republican or Democrat again, MAYBE if an actual leftist is the democratic canidate. But IMO the only way to free ourselves is to end the Duopoly forever, there’s no baby in that bathwater.

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          without looking it up what is neoliberalism and how is it different from social democracy or, indeed, liberalism?

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            Neoliberals are people pretending to be leftists that suck rich cock instead of representing the majority of their electorate.

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              “Everyone is a neoliberal except me”

              If you can’t properly identify ideology how can you expect to have meaningful conversations about it?

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                I just did you fascist enabler.

                Sorry you didn’t learn to read.

                I’m muting you now that it’s clear you juat hear what you want to hear.

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                  You might not see this, but someone else will: Neoliberalism has a definition, and it’s not “fake leftist.” When you find yourself calling Bernie Sanders, of all people, a neoliberal for advocating for voting for a neoliberal in an election against a fascist you need to take a step back and seriously ask yourself if you are lost in the sauce. If you do not know your enemy you will struggle to fight them.

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      And that neo-liberal will be the only option that has a snowball’s chance to beat Republicans.

      Sanders isn’t so starry-eyed as to undermine better in the pursuit of perfect.

      He’s been doing this a LOT longer than you.

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          We may be, but he’s still doing the smart thing instead of pushing for the impossible while allowing the terrible, because you don’t like the better.

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            pushing for the impossible

            You mean the bare minimum functions of a democratic society, yeah that’s pretry easy and most of europe already figured this out.

            while allowing the terrible.

            You are a dumb person for being fooled into accepting this.

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              Nah, bro. The far right fooled you into being angry at and failing to support the only group who has a snowball’s chance in hell of beating them. Performative righteousness.

              The rare smart magas LOVE what you’re doing.

              And yeah, you can feel very smug that you’re Doing The Right Thing while the US sinks into right wing authoritarianism because you didn’t vote for not-fascist. You know - the ones Bernie knows are the right choice at the moment, because Bernie knows better than you, because he’s been doing this since before you were born.

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                  Like I said, you’ll be able to hold your head high. Because that’s all the difference you made.