They don’t have a brain really and kinda just float there. Do they even feel pain?

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    After having kept jellyfish as pets (Atlantic bay nettles), I wouldn’t really consider them to be vegetarian nor vegan. While similar to plants, seemed to have a greater sense of environmental awareness than my plants. Mine could sense light, have “off days”, and interact with their environment. It’s probably true that there’s not much going on there due to the small amount of nerves that control everything, but even when mine would accidentally get caught on tank cleaning tools or get bumped around they’d react in a protective way and to me it’s just similar enough to animalistic behavior that I’d not feel comfortable consuming them if I were vegan.

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      Don’t most plants sense light and interact with their environment?

      Tardigrades have been observed reacting defensively to danger, even offensively. I know they’re not plants, but do they feel pain? What about brine shrimp?

      Jellyfish are super weird because they really blur the lines between plant/animal. It’s a really interesting question to ask honestly.

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      So is this theory of veganism to not cause pain to an animal? If so what about ethically sourced meat. Like bullet to the head/decapitation. Most of those creatures feel nothing, they just end.

      Or is it to not eat anything that comes from the an organism from the Animalia kingdom because harming animals is immoral?

      After proofreading, these sound more aggressive/argumentative than i had intended but they get the point across.

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        Veganism means to reduce the suffering and exploitation of animals as much as practically possible.

        There is nothing ethical about killing a living being that doesn’t want to die.

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      This is not at all what Veganism is.

      Veganism is LITERALLY an ethical stance regarding exploiting/harming/killing non-human animals.

      Finding a random blog online that states otherwise means nothing. Anyone who ate a salad last Tuesday these days thinks they can simply decide what Veganism is.

      THIS is the actual definition of Veganism, directly from the people who coined the term:

      “Veganism is a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude—as far as is possible and practicable—all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose; and by extension, promotes the development and use of animal-free alternatives for the benefit of animals, humans and the environment. In dietary terms it denotes the practice of dispensing with all products derived wholly or partly from animals."

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        THIS is the actual definition of Veganism, directly from the people who coined the term:

        That definition is from 1988, so it’s questionable whether it came “directly from the people who coined the term” in 1944. Here is a re-publication of the 1951 Leslie Cross definition:

        “The object of the Society shall be to end the exploitation of animals by man” and “The word veganism shall mean the doctrine that man should live without exploiting animals.”

        Allegedly someone read The World Peace Diet (by Will Tuttle) to Donald Watson on his deathbed, and Donald Watson said that the book encompassed everything that he intended when he founded the Vegan Society. Make of that what you will.