Need to let loose a primal scream without collecting footnotes first? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid: Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful youāll near-instantly regret.
Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.
If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cutānāpaste it into its own post ā thereās no quota for posting and the bar really isnāt that high.
The post Xitter web has spawned soo many āesotericā right wing freaks, but thereās no appropriate sneer-space for them. Iām talking redscare-ish, reality challenged āculture criticsā who write about everything but understand nothing. Iām talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. Theyāre inescapable at this point, yet I donāt see them mocked (as much as they should be)
Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldnāt be surgeons because they didnāt believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I canāt escape them, I would love to sneer at them.
(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this. Also, happy 4th July in advanceā¦I guess.)
Gary Marcus has been a solid source of sneer material and debunking of LLM hype, but yeah, youāre right. Gary Marcus has been taking victory laps over a bar set so so low by promptfarmers and promptfondlers. Also, side note, his negativity towards LLM hype shouldnāt be misinterpreted as general skepticism towards all AIā¦ in particular Gary Marcus is pretty optimistic about neurosymbolic hybrid approaches, itās just his predictions and hypothesizing are pretty reasonable and grounded relative to the sheer insanity of LLM hypsters.
Also, new possible source of sneers in the near future: Gary Marcus has made a lesswrong account and started directly engaging with them: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/Q2PdrjowtXkYQ5whW/the-best-simple-argument-for-pausing-ai
Predicting in advance: Gary Marcus will be dragged down by lesswrong, not lesswrong dragged up towards sanity. Heāll start to use lesswrong lingo and terminology and using P(some event) based on numbers pulled out of his ass. Maybe heāll even start to be ācharitableā to meet their norms and avoid down votes (I hope not, his snark and contempt are both enjoyable and deserved, but Iām not optimistic based on how the skeptics and critics within lesswrong itself learn to temper and moderate their criticism within the site). Lesswrong will moderately upvote his posts when he is sufficiently deferential to their norms and window of acceptable ideas, but wonāt actually learn much from him.
gross. Youād think the guy running the site directly insulting him would make him realize maybe lw simply aint it
Optimistically, heās merely giving into the urge to try to argue with people: https://xkcd.com/386/
Pessimistically, he realized how much money is in the doomer and e/acc grifts and wants in on it.
I dunno, Diz and I both pissed them off a whole lot
Best case scenario is Gary Marcus hangs around lw just long enough to develop even more contempt for them and he starts sneering even harder in this blog.
Come to the sneer side. We have brownies.