Summary
Vivian Jenna Wilson, Elon Musk’s daughter, accused her father of giving a “definitely Nazi salute” at two rallies in January, calling his actions “fucking cringe.”
In an interview with Teen Vogue, she criticized Musk’s involvement in the Trump administration and advocated for trans rights, emphasizing the importance of gender-affirming care for minors.
Wilson, who transitioned as a teen, described Musk as cold and absent, and revealed she no longer associates with him or his family.
She also expressed fear over anti-trans legislation under Trump’s administration.
did they edit their comment? or is it wrong to call someone who prefers she/her by they/them? i feel like they/them is the neutral version so if you prefer either he/him or she/her then they/them also applies, no? sorry if i’m being ignorant here.
edit: i guess people do distinguish they/them as a way to identify non-binary people, and so using they/them on a person who specifically requests she/her can be offensive if you have been informed that they have a preference. but i don’t see how using they/them to describe a person you don’t know anything about other than that they are transgender is offensive when there are so many possibilities for preferences. as a cis man i don’t feel offended being refered to as they/them and i think it would only be respectful to assume that someone who transitions ftm would also be comfortable with that, unless otherwise stated. i’m not a woman so i obviously can’t say for certain but i’d imagine i would also be okay with she/them, and therefore a mtf transgender would also be okay by default. ‘by default’ in this case meaning the circumstance in which you haven’t been explicitly informed of their preferences. i guess that’s just my respect compass- which very well might be wrong from some people’s point of view but i think it’s obvious that it doesn’t come from a negative place, which is why i don’t think the original comment in necessarily trying to disrespect her.
The article, the title, and the summary, all use her preferred pronouns.
I think “they” is perfectly fine if the preferred pronouns are actually undisclosed (or are the persons preferred pronouns, obviously).
But using “they” like three times, in response to a post where the proper pronouns were used? And with an oppositional tone? It lays it all pretty clear that the grandparent was intentionally saying “they” as a sophomoric attempt to express their disrespect.
My parent, who is downvoted, is quite clearly calling grandparent out on it.
I don’t see that being an issue, unless as you pointed out the tone of the rest of the paragraph. I’ve have tried to made a habit of using they and them most of the time when I write stuff even for cishet folks.
E: you know what, re reading some of my comments I don’t do that nearly as often as I thought i did. I apologize.
taking the article into more consideration i think you are right, this comment was pushed to the bottom so i guess by the time i got there it had slipped my mind what exactly the article said haha. though i do think it comes from a place of ignorance rather than malice. i personally might have made the same mistake which is why i attempted to give them the benefit of the doubt. prior to conversing with you i wasn’t very well informed on the etiquette. i would have assumed “they/them” was just the safest route to avoid offending anyone regardless of whether or not i knew.