The US and Ukraine have finalized a ‘temporary ceasefire deal’ during the Jeddah talks, which were meant to be a kind of conciliatory round two chance for Ukraine to amend for Zelensky’s faux pas.

The US and Ukraine have finalized a ‘temporary ceasefire deal’ during the Jeddah talks, which were meant to be a kind of conciliatory round two chance for Ukraine to amend for Zelensky’s faux pas.

  • Bloomcole@lemmy.ml
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    3 days ago

    Cowardly bombing a country is not ‘fighting a war’
    Even then, like the ukranians you mostly used a proxy, the Kurds and other local factions to do the fighting for you.
    And in good american tradition you threw them under the bus later.

    • Jimius@lemmy.ml
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      3 days ago

      I think you need to brush up on your history. And who is “you”? I’m not even American my friend.

      • Bloomcole@lemmy.ml
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        3 days ago

        First of all how old were you when it happened?
        I bet you got the sanitised, revisionist version, after some years plenty believed it had to do with WMD’s and never heard of the US warcrimes. (Same thing happened after decades of Hollywood fantasy movie propaganda when people in EU began to believe the US won the war and not the never mentioned Soviets)
        I’m sure I know more about it or history in general you since we have better education than you Canadians and.
        I’m sure with the many many SS Galicia warcriminals that moved there, and their offspring like Freeland whitewashing them I think you probably don’t know enough about your own country.

        • badwetter@kbin.melroy.orgOP
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          3 days ago

          @Bloomcole@lemmy.ml

          Sadly, you’re right about my country — most Canadians don’t know that many Ukrainian Banderaites immigrated to Canada during the Cold War. They had to be stringent anti-communists, so obviously that would be people from western Ukraine. And yes, just like our former Deputy PM, Chrystia Freeland. Her Grandfather was an official Nazi. I’ve heard that Alberta has some statues glorifying Bandera, possibly in Sask and Manitoba too, where there are other pockets of Ukrainian diaspora. It appears that some Canadians on Lemmy are followers of this ideology, judging by many of their comments, like the fool you’re responding to. Probably why the western provinces of Canada <ie> Alberta always vote hard right.

          @BombOmOm@lemmy.world @commander@lemmings.world @60d@lemmy.ca @yogthos@lemmy.ml @Jimius@lemmy.ml

          • Bloomcole@lemmy.ml
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            3 days ago

            And it continues: https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2024/12/30/cypl-d30.html

            immigrated to Canada during the Cold War.

            Also yes, but my link shows the west actively rescued and evacuated the worst SS nazis even during the war and sent them there.
            Others followed later.
            They figured it was a good way to counter the left-wing sentiments many earlier immigrants had. Ironically many of them Ukrainian communists.
            Here’s a good read on how it evolved and how they now have power:
            https://thegrayzone.com/2020/03/26/canadian-conservative-party-bandera-canada/
            Good luck over there.

            • badwetter@kbin.melroy.orgOP
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              3 days ago

              @Bloomcole@lemmy.ml

              Thanks, yes knew about this. NASA was successful because of German research and the lead technical person was a von Braun, IIRC. West German Intelligence was staffed by many former Gestapo too. They figured it was a good way to counter the Soviets and East Germans in Europe.

              @BombOmOm@lemmy.world @commander@lemmings.world @60d@lemmy.ca @yogthos@lemmy.ml @Jimius@lemmy.ml