• mojofrododojo@lemmy.world
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    13 hours ago

    man it’s so hard to explain to people how miserably short and wretched existing in a chemical or biological warfare environment would be when shit got real.

    like, you have no idea how much it would suck to have to wear protective gear over every square inch, basically encased in a rubber greenhouse, while trying to carry a combat load and put shit downrange. I can’t begin to describe the misery of having stinging sweat running in your eyes like a faucet, and having no ability to simply scratch or wipe your brow, because you’re in a protective mask and suit, or how miserable lives would be - eating? pfft, nope. defecating? urinating? probably gonna shit your suit bro, the odds of decontamination happening so you can conveniently drop deuces ain’t a consideration.

    fuck, just getting your rifle in a position to aim down the barrel and acquire a sight picture becomes comically difficult. then you start thinking about what one tiny cut, one fuck up in your gear order leads to - what happens when nerve agents and blood clotting agents kill those around you, because they made a mistake somewhere, or the lady who sealed their mask at the factory was having an off day, and a tiny whiff of cyanogen chloride or arsine and bam your buddy’s on the ground, thrashing as their bloodstream turns into semisolid goop. Or a bit of nerve agent got past their seals / overlaps and into their nervous system, so homey’s over there flopping like a massive fish out of water, which might be funny if you didn’t know those violent spasms indicated they were dying in front of you.

    And your only hope is to live long enough to make it to decontamination; most of the equipment isn’t meant to be field serviced, so doing something as simple as changing your mask’s filter (which you MUST do if you want to live) can be impossible (when I enlisted you had to remove your mask to change the filters which were stored in the cheek region - lol hope you’re good at holding your breath for a long time) or exceptionally hard (later we got canister based filters that you could screw on, but be gentle with it because you can tear up that connector seal and die anyway, ha-ha)…

    It’s silly to hope we never go down these roads again, because so few people are aware of the utter dread these weapons deserve. The reality of NBC fighting should be on the telly ever other day, like a Threads marathon, to discourage all from letting their nations go to war with the shit.

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      All these years later and this is still one of my favourite episodes. Say what you will about Moffatt but he can churn out a great episode when he’s on it. Eccleston was also an impeccable Doctor, might be my favourite.

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        Moffatt was great for short burts. Often the best episode of the season, or a great little mini-arc across 2-3 episodes. His problems always manifest when he is writing whole seasons. He quickly goes off the rails and backs himself into stupid corners trying to one-up the episode before.

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          I agree that having Moffat come in and so the best episode/multi episode of the season was optimal. Even then, I’m not sure the other showrunners they had was all that great either. I’m not the world’s biggest RTD fan.

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        That was the first episode of Doctor Who I iver watched, and nothing has really been able to achieve that high. Don’t Blink is probably my second choice.

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    I think I’ve seen similar pictures before. Can’t remember which country, but I do know the time period: WW2.

    Side note: War is awful, and chemical weapons are truly terrifying.

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      Why WW2? Chemical weapons were more of a WW1 thing, no? They were also used later, even in Syria a few years ago, but the mayor combats with them were in WW1.

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        Yeah after ww1 we pretty quickly agreed that we won’t use them or be called a dick for all eternity.

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          Oh fuck, and here we are with a toad-in-chief who would love being called a dick for all eternity as long as they’re talking about him

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        During WW1 chemical weapons were used, so everyone knew that the option was still on the table. Everyone was worried that the other side might use chemical weapons, so that’s why preparations like the one seen in the picture were made.

  • 𝕽𝖚𝖆𝖎𝖉𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍@midwest.social
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    I feel as if - even with how difficult it would have been - it would have been more practical and easier to seal off the maternity wards. At least the ones in the major cities likely to get gassed.

    Presumptuous. Maybe it would have been too hard. I can’t imagine giving birth, or assisting, in one of those. Much less surgery. They must have sealed sections of buildings.

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      it would have been more practical and easier to seal off the maternity wards.

      I’d love to see the sealing that can stop german high explosive dropped from planes.

      you gotta realize that nbc attacks are often hybrid - force the population out of shelter with bombs, then follow-up with chemical agents…

      it’s never as simple as tony thinks. reality isn’t elegant that way.

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      If the building was bombed you might have to evacuate through poison-gassy space even if the initial loss of seal didn’t immediately bring in poison.