The Force Awakens and its follow-ups had so few memorable characters, it’s a wonder Disney – and Oscar Isaac – are still talking about potential spin-offs

The Force Awakens and its follow-ups had so few memorable characters, it’s a wonder Disney – and Oscar Isaac – are still talking about potential spin-offs

  • Ilandar@lemmy.today
    24·
    2 months ago

    you falsely decided he was the big villain

    I guess you watched some alternative universe version of the first two films, because Smoke was 100% the big bad until he was killed off. You literally just acknowledged him as an Emperor re-tread lol

      • Ilandar@lemmy.today
        14·
        2 months ago

        him being an Emperor retread doesn’t necessitate him being the big bad. it’s just means he’s evoking notes of a previous character.

        “Evoking notes” of the previous character…who was the big bad.

          • Ilandar@lemmy.today
            14·
            2 months ago

            But you said J.J. Abrams was being “unoriginal” with The Force Awakens. In other words, copying the original film/trilogy. In the original trilogy, the Emperor is clearly the big bad and this is established in the first film. So if Smoke is the equivalent of Palpatine, as was also established in the first film of the sequel trilogy, he is clearly the big bad up until Rian Johnson kills him off prematurely. Your core argument here doesn’t line up.

              • Ilandar@lemmy.today
                24·
                2 months ago

                Replying again with a strawman argument isn’t going to convince me. Sorry champ.

                  • Ilandar@lemmy.today
                    13·
                    2 months ago

                    If it’s “literally reality”, I’m sure you can point to where I said this:

                    so according to you, Luke and Leah can’t POSSIBLY be related, since incest is gross and illegal, and it would ruin the love triangle.

                    I don’t recall ever mentioning Luke or Leia’s relationship.

              • Ilandar@lemmy.today
                14·
                2 months ago

                just because JJ is unoriginal doesn’t mean anything HAS to follow from that in the future

                Of course it doesn’t. You also don’t have to make a good film or try to contribute to a cohesive trilogy, you can just “subvert expectations” and apparently some people will worship you for it.