That seems like a good question to pose about the person who is leading up the “Department” of Government Efficiency (DOGE). After all, it would be reasonable to expect that a government agency committed to increasing efficiency in government would go about its work in an efficient manner. It would be pretty hard to make that case about DOGE.

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    Perhaps you would be correct about a normal dispute between a CEO/Board and disgruntled shareholders who want more, but that’s not the Tesla situation.

    MuskRat has been behaving recklessly, inappropriately, violently, insultingly, and worse, and the extreme negative reaction from Tesla’s current and potential market was easily predictable.

    Whether the law requires that a CEO act to maximize profits, or simply manage the business in the best way possible on behalf of shareholders, MuskRat’s behavior has egregiously violated both, leaving both himself and the board greatly exposed to the possibility of a shareholder class-action suit, for any number of reasons.

    With a nearly 60% drop in the stock price (which continues), and a severely damaged corporate image around the entire WORLD (which is probably unrecoverable under the current corporate leadership), both DIRECTLY attributable to his own personal behavior, it is doubtful that the company will even be in business in a couple of years, although HitlerPig will probably give him a bail out.

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      OK, this new take you bring is a far departure from your original “all companies must maximize profit” original claim

      Having said that I still think you are mising 2 key points:

      • Musk and his circus control the vast majority of teslas shares so I doubt anyone else can actually bring a law suit against him
      • There is no rule of law in America anymore. If there was, Musk would have been in jail a while ago.
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        Musk and his circus control the vast majority of teslas shares so I doubt anyone else can actually bring a law suit against him

        Being a shareholder at all is sufficient standing to sue for a corporation’s executives violating its charter.

        There is no rule of law in America anymore.

        Where rich people are involved, it has been severely limited since the founding of the Republic. It’s gotten worse, but it was never good.

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          Being a shareholder at all is sufficient standing to sue for a corporation’s executives violating its charter.

          Yes but it’s harder to prove damages when a minority holder complains abd the majority claims everything is peachy

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        I didn’t change anything, I just pointed out that whether you or I are correct (which is an e tirely dufferent duscussion), the situation doesn’t really change. MuskRat is still civilly responsible for the Tesla’s ongoing crash.

        It doesn’t require a majority of shareholders to file a class-action lawsuit. Any group with the same issues can combine to sue. Besides, there are probably some other major shareholders who are totally out of their minds over MuskRat costing them millions of dollars with his unhinged reckless behavior. I wouldn’t be so quick to believe that they will continue to support him. I certainly wouldn’t support someone who has cost me millions so far, and whose continuing behavior is predictably likely to continue to lose my money.

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          Brother, the Tesla board fought to give Elon 56 Billion dollars and nobody raised an eye brow… Do you really think they can touch him now?

          The best thing that would happen here is that Musk behaviour will destroy Tesla, Musk’s own power which is entirely derived from money would crumble, and THEN maybe some people would want to kick the dead horse

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            A class-action lawsuit doesnt require their permission. If the Board doesn’t act to protect the company and shareholders from MuskRat’s bad behavior, they become as liable for damages as MuskRat. The smart move would be to remove him, but they are probably afraid of him, and his attack dog in the Oval.

            They ignore his behavior at their own economic peril.

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              I know, I never said anything specific about a class action lawsuit.

              My point is that Musk has been acting terribly for a LONG time and not too long ago the board was bending over backwards to gift Musk 56 billion dollars… there is no wherewithal in this company to go against Musk