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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/29815074
“Israel’s” Minister of Strategic Affairs, Ron Dermer, a close ally of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, reportedly spoke “with his usual arrogance” to senior Republican officials, detailing what US President Donald Trump “must do", according to Yanir Cozin, a diplomatic correspondent for Israeli Army Radio, who cited a senior Israeli official.
However, Dermer’s approach appears to have backfired. Trump’s inner circle reportedly told him that “Netanyahu is manipulating the American president,” a characterization that did not sit well with Trump.
The cited official noted that “Trump hates nothing more than appearing to be manipulated.”
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If the US backs away from continuing to commit this genocide over petty interpersonal drama, that’s good but I can’t imagine a dumber timeline
All the libs who said the genocide was no reason not to vote for kamala would melt lol
the funniest timeline would be if the US stops helping the 51st state Israel because Trump actually believes the antisemitic lies of the “tail wagging the dog”.
Okay so definitely that idea is antisemitic nonsense but if you don’t consider incompetence I understand why it looks that way to people.
From my perspective, US involvement in Israel is not in the US’s best interests. Frankly I think it’s obvious, Israel’s genocide has caused intense domestic strife, pissed off tons of our allies, increased the cost of shipping goods, and is constantly threatening to spiral even more out of control in ways that could cause the fall of the US empire. And for what? An unsinkable aircraft carrier isn’t much good if you collapse your country to build it and it’s sinking the whole time anyway.
So if you come in from that perspective, and then you see the way the US acts towards Israel despite the costs, there are two conclusions to come to, the incorrect one of “Israel (or just The Jews) controls the US government” or the correct one “US leaders are really stupid and genuinely think supporting Israel is good for the United States interests and do not recognize the dangers.” If you’re not accounting for people in power making bad choices that don’t give them their desired outcome, the only other option is “the tail wags the dog”
This goes double if the person thinking about this doesn’t understand how military aid works and that it’s also domestic spending and a way of handing money to Lockheed and Raytheon, or the nebulous “benefits” of imperialism. Easy to think “Israel is dragging us into this mess and we’ve given them hundreds of billions of dollars for nothing in return”
Combine this with the fact that they’re deporting Palestinian protest leaders and writing “Shalom, Mahmoud” on the official White House post, (referring to Mahmoud Khalil) and constantly insisting that Israel means All Jews Always. There’s going to be people who are like “Well I hate this genocide and the way my government is funding it, I guess I do hate the jews.”
If they keep this shit up pogroms are going to make a comeback, which of course is good for Israel too, since it forces jews to run there and become settlers.
Stopping the aid and having Israel collapse in like a week would be a lot better for everyone, so I hope Trump is dumb enough to go for it.
It’s not so much just that the US leaders are idiots (they are), it’s that many of them will prioritize their own personal enrichment from
briberylobbying from AIPAC. That’s the reason so many of them will continue to support Israel.Also when you basically need to be rich or useful to the rich to afford to run for congress going against AIPAC is pretty much a death sentence for your campaign. That also filters out potential dissent.
Goes to show that capitalism will always eventually run into problems since it will prioritize short term profits over everything.
it’s that many of them will prioritize their own personal enrichment from
briberylobbying from AIPACI think you overestimate how much money AIPAC contributes. Most of their contributions are in like, the thousands of dollars not tens or hundreds of thousands. I think you’re correct that they fear backlash from AIPAC, but I think they’re wrong about how dangerous that backlash actually is.
It’s the largest single lobby in US politics, largely for imperialist reasons, and it overlaps with many other powerful lobbies. Since 9/11, the oil industry amd the weapons industry and the fundamentalists have all coalesced around American-Israeli relations as a salient.
There’s a bunch of very good reasons why it’s extremely rare for anyone in the last 50 years to have made it into state or national office on an explicitly pro-Palestine platform.
aww is someone getting hung out to dry
For once it’s not Netanyahus’ laundry that is hung out to dry
Trump is gonna get murked. Just gotta wait for the lathe to spin up.
American Ides of March but it’s Trump choking on a burger while the Congress just stands around him watching.
Libs will claim that’s how Stalin died.
When your bestie starts leaving you on read.
[Meta] This is the first time I’ve seen a web page embed in a Lemmy post and I’m trying to figure out how and why.
Edit: Did Hexbear do a version upgrade just recently? Is this happening on any other post?
Oh boy I remember the age of html frames like it was yesterday. Frames. Frames everywhere. Entire websites made of frames.
You just sparked a memory I hadn’t thought about in ages lol
People used to embed those “what type of ___ are you?” Quiz results at the bottom of their pages or their comment signatures.
So many signatures that were like:
~Graveyards are full of honourable souls~… Here is my DS friend code for trading on Pokemon Pearl: 00036373
and then an embedded jpeg of a white box with a picture of a dragon in it and rainbow papyrus text that reads “you are a BLUE dragon. That means you are creative and love the arts! Paste this html in your signature to let everyone know your results”
Every signature would have 3 frames, poorly formatted, with scrollbars for each one.
The nav sidebar would also have a scrollbar.
The under construction header with a gif of construction workmen would also be poorly formatted and have a horizontal scrollbar.
3 frames of the blog itself would have scroll bars.
I miss the messy internet
It was wild
AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH pls no not this flashback
Rows of pixel flame gifs
In a scrolling frame
retvrn
Certain news sites and video hosts get embedded like this. I don’t know if those sites are returning a different sort of embed data when hexbear tries to fetch something about them or if they’re being handled in a special way, but it’s been like this for a while now. I kind of trust that the lemmy/hexbear fork devs have done something to stop the embedding from being a security risk since I’d expect an outcry and the feature to be disabled otherwise, but it does kind of sketch me out every time I see it.
Yeah it happened here too. It was also a link to Almayadeen website.
This is one of the only news sites that doesn’t block embedding
Curious.
Lol
Kinda funny that Netanyahu thought Trump would be better for Israel than Biden. He probably thought he could just flatter Trump and he’d give them whatever they wanted. Meanwhile he’d insult Biden, call him a removed, and then Biden would immediately send a new aid package
The world is led by a bunch of idiots
But I haven’t even had my chance yet
Bibi, Bibi, Bibi - listen-listen. I keep telling you that ya gotta buy $Trump meme coin.
Mr. President - respectfully - our relationship is not of that nature.
But it is of that nature. America - Strong and Powerful. Israel pound-for-pound is good but not Strong and Powerful like America. What are you without us? Ya gotta buy $Trump meme coin. It’s a respect thing.
Netanyahu doesn’t say anything. He just scowls.
Attack dog got too confident and tried eating off their owner’s plate
Biden would never have done anything like this.
“I’ve been a zionist since they day I could eat ice-cream, jack! Whatiaboatuda wha-…I did NATO!”
Lol, bullshit.
Get fucked, Mr. Yahoo
