I’d like to hear people’s journeys and motivations from people who switched over the last few months, and if there were particular challenges that were faced.

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    The only logical addition to the post title is “If so, you may be entitled to compensation.”

    Customer Testimonials: “My cousin Rick switched to Linux and now he never stops talking about Arch and flatpacks and kernel panics. BS&D Associates got us $30,000,000 in damages!”

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    My daughter is very Linux curious but she’s not going to want to learn anything about it. She just wants to play games and chat with friends. I’ll probably switch her when I upgrade and pass my current computer down.

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      Go with Bazzite. It just works, she can’t break it, and as long as she reboots from time to time, it’ll always be up to date. And she won’t have to learn anything to use it.

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          The only other suggestion is to figure out whether KDE or Gnome desktop environment is right for her. Former more Windows-like, latter more Mac-like. And then just make sure to grab that version of Bazzite.

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      If you know the games she plays, you could test installing them separately ahead of time, so that there would be minimal difference when that switchover happens.

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        It’s mostly The Sims with mods along with whatever meme games she’s hearing about on YouTube. There’s no concern about rootkit anti-cheat or anything, and so far my experience has been almost anything on Steam will run in Linux without having to do anything. She’ll run into performance issues with her current hardware before she hits any games that aren’t compatible.

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    My wife wanted Linux on her tablet. She read online that Gnome was the preferred DE on touchscreens. I warned her that I personally dislike Gnome, but it’s not like I’m going to throw a minimal window manager at her, so I told her that’s fine and she should try it out.

    Since I’m her tech support, I installed Garuda, a distro I already use. She played around with it, then asked if she could have desktop icons. It was stupid that she had to press a whole extra button just to see her “home screen”, she said. So I installed the desktop icons gnome extension, but it lacks basic features like either right click or drag, or maybe both. I can’t recall at the moment.

    Then the onscreen keyboard wouldn’t appear automatically when using certain programs like Brave. And using the stylus to press the OSK would close it entirely. The stylus was really fidgety and oversensitive, too. I have zero touchscreen experience on Linux, so I was disappointed with gnome’s lack of GUI controls to fix these kinds of things.

    She started to complain that Linux is too hard, then signed up for the 1 year extended Windows 10 support on her old laptop.

    So I reinstalled Garuda with KDE this time, told her I tried something new, and she’s been happy with it so far. Turns out my wife just hates Gnome. And she expressed this hate completely unprompted.

    That’s right, my love; fuck Gnome.

    I’ve never been more proud.

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      I think GNOME 3 was intended to be nicer for touchscreens but it’s not my favourite either.

      My daily driver is MATE - the spiritual continuation of GNOME 2.

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    Yes! Two folks swapped to nix, one to mint.

    Getting VR to work has been a journey on nix. Everything on mint has gone smoothly afaik.

    Windows 10 EOL (and moving) both roughly lined up, so we all decided to get away from big tech. The nix os was new, interesting, and feels very powerful when things work. Mint was a known safe choice.

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      Thank you for sharing! VR has been a well reported pain point, but interesting to hear that Linux Mint handled it well now. I don’t own a VR headset – which one do you have that played nice with Mint, if you don’t mind me asking? In case I ever feel like getting my own.

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    I switched maybe like two years ago now. I only had issues on one game but a bit later it just worked not sure what changed. I know EA stuff doesn’t work so haven’t really messed around with that. I check protonDB a lot to see game compatibility.

    The biggest issue for me was getting a handle on a photo workflow for myself after switching and leaving lightroom/adobe behind. I use darkroom now which I’m still learning but I have a basic workflow down pretty well.

    I built up a PC for my cousin for gaming and put bazzite on there, she hasn’t really noticed anything being her first personal PC so thats pretty good, I’ve gone from popOS, to arch to bazzite

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      Bazzite with gnome is mostly painless. I have been using that on my desktop for about a year now, I have fedora with kde on my laptop and its also pretty good.

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        In case you didn’t know, there’s Aurora OS which is immutable fedora with KDE plasma, very much like bazzite or any of the uBlue spins. I have been using it on a laptop for a while now and I am extremely happy with it.

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          I did not, but I started on fedora silverblue and rebased to bazzite because the bazzite installer wasn’t working for me a year ago. I think all in all, I prefer gnome even as a wondows expat.

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    I went to Linux Mint and it’s been painless. All my games I want to play run on it (through Steam).

    My son is getting my old computer as a hand me down and I put Mint on it, too. I’ve installed Sober on it so he can play Roblox. I don’t know how it’ll go but we’ll see…

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      Yea, roblox and fortnite are the two hold backs for me switching my kids PCs since the anti cheat doesn’t apparently work on Linux. I hadn’t heard of Sober though. Hope it works out!

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    I helped switch my 88 years old grandma to Mint a few months back when her laptop started to run painfully slow. I don’t think she understands that I changed her OS but she is happy with “whatever I did to her laptop”, now her laptop runs much faster and 0 problems so far for her needs, very simple needs but she actually uses it a lot!

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      For like a good chunk of people, all you need from a computer the news, online videos, one social media, email, banking, simple writing and printing. Linux does fine and some distros actually do better than Windows at the basics.

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    I switched to Mint in March. I have to use W11 for work and I thoroughly hate it. I did not want all the ads and AI stuff that come pre-packaged. I also did not want to upgrade my pc - I have an arbitrary rule that I’m only allowed new hardware every 10 years, so I have another 2 years left until I can upgrade.

    So I used all my anger and pettiness, went on youtube to see how difficult it’d be to install Linux. The first video I found was Zorin vs Mint, and I thought Mint was a good fit for an absolute noob like myself. I really did not want to faff with learning commands and stuff so I was very pleasantly surprised with flatpaks and whatnot. Overall I’d say it was a very good experience, I’m just annoyed I’ve not done it earlier.

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      How do desktop functions perform on Linux Mint compared to Windows on your current machine, qualitatively speaking? I’ve kept my parents’ 13 year old laptop alive with Linux, a replacement battery and SSD, so 2 more years should be no problem unless your needs drastically change.

      You’ll find there are dozens of ways to “install” an app on Linux, in varying degrees of portability, ease of install and ease of upgrade.

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        It’s an absolute joy, although I am a little annoyed at the random freezes I sometimes get, like when everything stops responding with no rhyme or reason. At least when Windows crashes, it crashes good and just reboots. But Mint needs a hard reset. Other than that, I managed to get all my games to play thanks to Lutris so I couldn’t be happier! I’ve had some tiny tweaks to make, for example my sound got crackly after some update, but thankfully there are tons and tons of troubleshooting that basically take your hand and guide you through what you need to do to sort issues. I’m immensely grateful for all those forums.

        Your mention of a laptop reminds me I also installed Mint on my 16 year old lappy, it’s quite slow but it actually works with all the OG hardware (bar a new battery)!

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    Me. But not just me. When my children grow older, they too will now have a Linux OS on their computers not Microsoft. Microsoft has lost more than just me!

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    I switched from W11 when Copilot Vision was scheduled for a forced install. Choose Debian KDE because my servers are all Debian-based already, and I wanted boring and stable. For the most part, it’s been smooth sailing. There’s a touchpad issue sometimes that requires reloading the mouse module, and updating my Dell dock requires loading a Windows boot disk to run the installer from that environment. That’s about it for problems. Using apt and flatpak to manage updates for all my software has been great. I do not miss downloading and clicking through installer wizards all the time.

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    One from my friend. He has tried Linux before but switched back due to issues. When this Win10’s EOL came up I floated trying it again. Which he then did that weekend. It worked great for the most part. One game had install issues, but worked after we resolved them, another Proton game had full screen problems with no monitor output when the “Adaptive Refresh Rate” setting was enabled in the OS settings.

    That software-hardware interface problem wasn’t documented anywhere, so it was just a lot of fiddling with all the settings one-by-one and trying various things to get it working to no avail until he got there.

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    I’m jealous of those that converted to Linux from Windows 10.

    I didn’t migrate until Windows 2000.

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    … it’s been a journey. TLDR: Wayland is super broken, NVIDIA makes it worse, Ubuntu doesn’t come with the right drivers out of box, UI inconsistency is everywhere (only Mac gets it right, at the cost of everything else) but major feature upgrades in most regular stuff.

    I switched to Debian +Plasma X11, which makes most things work out of the box, but KiCAD crashes Plasma and logs you out of you open a large enough file. If I use Wayland, all of the windows open in a giant pile in the center my screen and OrcaSlicer segfaults when opening a webkit embed. Also no 3d views.

    NVIDIA breaks all the rendering stuff, so no 3d model previews in your icons :( and the install defaults to unsafe mode on high refresh screens for Kubuntu, which cuts off the top half of your screen. Print previews are broken on Kate (NVIDIA)

    Older Unity Engine can’t run controller input natively on linux, so you still play games under proton.

    Login screen wallpaper and Wallpaper waking up from sleep and “wallpaper” are three different wallpapers on Debian/Plasma.

    Plasma Desktop is not considered an active window so creating a new file and pressing enter doesn’t open it, but rather selects a foreground window, But if no window exists, it will open the file.


    Now, the better stuff:

    Printer drivers work out of box on basically everything I’ve tested and adding printers is plug and play unlike Windows. Printers on? You’re done!

    Separated home and root partitions, I nuked my install 4 times and didn’t need to copy over my data. (Auto partition doesn’t give round numbers to the partitions and this irritates me why 61.73.gb root partitions why not 62???)

    Snapshot backups - I no longer care if I accidentally need some older file I deleted, if I ran a backup recently, it’s there. Restic

    Updates: I can reinstall and uninstall without rebooting - takes 2 minutes max. (Downloading is the bigger portion of it)

    Faster boot times, way better keyboard input support, more customizable, integrated file management zip/rar support (very cool) Files open faster, dark mode everywhere, I can compile C firmware about 6-8 times faster without windows scanning my code every time. Although, is antivirus a thing on Linux?

    They fixed rounded corners!!! Firefox still likes to be special and ignore window decorations, not sure what’s up with that.

    No Copilot and no “my computer fans suddenly spun up for no reason whatsoever”, although I miss task manager, I have htop now,

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      TLDR: Wayland is super broken, NVIDIA makes it worse,

      Wait, what? I’m using NVIDIA and Plasma 6.5 without issues.

      Ubuntu

      Ohhhhhhh

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      Thanks for this writeup. CAD is one of the several professional workflows that I really wish could work better on Linux, but it is hard to compete against software that costs thousands per year per license.

      Although, is antivirus a thing on Linux?

      So generally Linux has relied on having open and auditable code to avoid exploitation of bugs and ones found can be easily discovered, reported and mitigated. The variety of configurations makes it much less appealing for hackers as an attack surface. So for the average user the biggest danger to breaking your device is yourself (but very occasionally the package manager messes something up too). ClamAV is one antivirus application Linux has…

      But depending on what threats you want to mitigate here is what else you can look into:

      • Protection against random unwanted internet connections to your computer: UFW (firewall)
      • Protection against anyone besides you remotely SSH-ing to your machine (SSH is often disabled by default): fail2ban, strongly encrypted keys
      • Protection against physical access of your disk, and data and OS: LUKS (disk encryption)
      • Protection against other computer users (or yourself by accident) messing with important parts of the system: SELinux (trusted environment). Most users don’t need this for their personal PC.
      • Protection against code you got off github from nuking your computer: flatpak (containerized app), docker (containerized environment), firejail (sandbox environment).
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    Made the move gradually - first the private computers of my family,then my company. Very happy with how it went, especially in terms of staff adoption. We still retain some dual boot windows machines,sadly,as some things currently still can’t be done in the Linux world (CAD is the one thing, some very specific Office document things we sadly get dictated by a client the other one.)

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      Impressive that you were able to pull off the migration for a corporate usecase.

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        It’s not that hard actually, at least tech-wise. Our ERP always has been web based and so is our project management (Redmine). The biggest “installable” Apps are QGIS(always worked on Linux), some LaTex Apps and the Affinity suite (which works through bottles)

        Officewise Softmaker is close enough to MS Office that even someone with little experience computerwise has no issues.

        Combine that with a Proxmox+FreeIPA+Opsi stack in the background and you’re set.Fedora 42 Plasma is used as a client OS with benefits from us only having 2 different client models hardware wise.

        “Politic” wise I have the huge advantage that I am the sole owner of the company, that my staff is young and willing to innovate as this is basically our job (we do consulting for healthcare) and that we are somewhat small and work home-office full time.

        The major challenge was to make people to actually try Linux. Plasma helped her enormously,because, let’s face it, it’s beautiful. That gave Linux a lot of godwil and after two days it was usually a “I never thought it would be that easy” or “that works as smooth as Win7/10 once did for me and MS destroyed that”.

        Now some of my employees have privately changed to Linux as well.

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    Yup, installed Linux Mint for my 60+yo mother. She hardly uses her laptop and does not need anything advanced. We set it up, installation went very smooth (obviously), set up her browser so she can use it like she’s used to, and we figured out how to use the printer. Thankfully it was no hassle at all, it just connected via USB and interacted very well with the printing and scanning software that came with Mint. She was already using firefox and libreoffice, so that was no hassle either. So far so good!