Wondering about services to test on either a 16gb ram “AI Capable” arm64 board or on a laptop with modern rtx. Only looking for open source options, but curious to hear what people say. Cheers!

  • SmokeyDope@lemmy.world
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    I run kobold.cpp which is a cutting edge local model engine, on my local gaming rig turned server. I like to play around with the latest models to see how they improve/change over time. The current chain of thought thinking models like deepseek r1 distills and qwen qwq are fun to poke at with advanced open ended STEM questions.

    STEM questions like “What does Gödel’s incompleteness theorem imply about scientific theories of everything?” Or “Could the speed of light be more accurately refered to as ‘the speed of causality’?”

    As for actual daily use, I prefer using mistral small 24b and treating it like a local search engine with the legitimacy of wikipedia. Its a starting point to ask questions about general things I don’t know about or want advice on, then do further research through more legitimate sources.

    Its important to not take the LLM too seriously as theres always a small statistical chance it hallucinates some bullshit but most of the time its fairly accurate and is a pretty good jumping off point for further research.

    Lets say I want an overview of how can I repair small holes forming in concrete, or general ideas on how to invest financially, how to change fluids in a car, how much fat and protein is in an egg, ect.

    If the LLM says a word or related concept I don’t recognize I grill it for clarifying info and follow it through the infinite branching garden of related information.

    I’ve used an LLM to help me go through old declassified documents and speculate on internal gov terminalogy I was unfamiliar with.

    I’ve used a speech to text model and get it to speek just for fun. Ive used multimodal model and get it to see/scan documents for info.

    Ive used websearch to get the model to retrieve information it didn’t know off a ddg search, again mostly for fun.

    Feel free to ask me anything, I’m glad to help get newbies started.

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    I use OLlama & Open-WebUI, OLlama on my gaming rig and Open-WebUI as a frontend on my server.

    It’s been a really powerful combo!

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      Would you please talk more about it. I forgot about Open-webui, but intending to start playing with. Honestly, what do you actually do with it?

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        I have this exact same setup. Open Web UI has more features than I’ve been able to use such as functions and pipelines.

        I use it to share my LLMs across my network. It has really good user management so I can set up a user for my wife or brother in law and give them general use LLM while my dad and I can take advantage of Coding-tuned models.

        The code formatting and code execution functions are great. It’s overall a great UI.

        Ive used LLMs to rewrite code, help format PowerPoint slides, summarize my notes from work, create D&D characters, plan lessons, etc

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        I have Linkwarden pointed at my ollama deployment, so it auto tags links that I archive which is nice.

        I’ve seen other people send images captured on their security cameras on frigate to ollama to get it to describe the image

        There’s a bunch of other use cases I’ve thought of for coding projects, but haven’t started on any of them yet

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        I have the same setup, but its not very usable as my graphics card has 6gb ram. I want one with 20 or 24, as the 6b models are pain and the tiny ones don’t give me much.

        Ollama was pretty easy to set up on windows, and its eqsy to download and test the models ollama has available

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            Possibly. Been running it since last summer, but like i say the small models dont do much good for me. I have tried llama3.1 olmo2, deepseek r1 in a few variants, qwen2. Qwen2.5 coder, mistral, codellama, starcoder2, nemotron-mini, llama3.2, qwen2.5-coder, gamma2 and llava.

            I use perplexity and mistral as paid, with much better quality. Openwebui is great though, but my hardware is lacking

            Edit: saw that my mate is still using it a bit so i’ll update openwebu frpm 0.4 to 0.5.20 for him. Hes a bit anxious about sending data to the cloud so he dont mind the quality

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              Scrap that - after upgrading it went bonkers and will always use one of my «knowledges» no matter what I try. The websearch fails even with ddg as engine. Its aways seemed like the ui was made by unskilled labour, but this is just horrible. 2/10 not recommended

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    I run ollama and auto1111 on my desktop when it’s powers on. Using open-webui in my homelab always on, and also connected to openrouter. This way I can always use openwebui with openrouter models and it’s pretty cheap per query and a little more private that using a big tech chatbot. And if I want local, I turn on the desktop and have local lamma and stab diff.

    I also get bugger all benefit out of it., it’s a cute toy.

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        The project is a bit out of date for newer models, Though Older ones work great.

        I recommand ComfyUi if you want fine grained control over the generation and you like to tinker.

        Swarm / Reforge / Invoke if you want neat, up to date UI.

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    I’ve an old gaming PC with a decent GPU laying around and I’ve thought of doing that (currently use it for linux gaming and GPU related tasks like photo editing etc) However ,I’m currently stuck using LLMs on demand locally with ollama. Energy costs of having it powered on all time for on demand queries seems a bit overkill to me…

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      Once I changed the default model, immich search became amazing. I want to show it off to people but alas, way too many NSFW pics in my library. I would create a second “clean” version to show off to people but I’ve been too lazy.

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    LMStudio is pretty much the standard. I think it’s opensource except for the UI. Even if you don’t end up using it long-term, it’s great for getting used to a lot of the models.

    Otherwise there’s OpenWebUI that I would imagine would work as a docker compose, as I think there’s ARM images for OWU and ollama

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      Well they are fully closed source except for the open source project they are a wrapper on. The open source part is llama.cpp

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        Fair enough, but it’s damn handy and simple to use. And I don’t know how to do speculative decoding with ollama, which massively speeds up the models for me.

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          Their software is pretty nice. That’s what I’d recommand to someone who doesn’t want to tinker. It’s just a shame they don’t want to open source their software and we have to reinvent the wheel 10 times. If you are willing to tinker a bit koboldcpp + openewebui/librechat is a pretty nice combo.

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            That koboldcpp is pretty interesting. Looks like I can load a draft model for spec decode as well as a pile of other things.

            What local models have you been using for coding? I’ve been disappointed with things like deepseek-coder and the qwen-coder, it’s not even a patch on Claude, but that damn cost for anthropic has been killing me.

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      Qwen coder or the new gemma3.

      But at this size using privacy respecting api might be both cheaper and lead to better results.

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        It’s a cluster of workers where everyone can generate images/text using workers connected to the service.

        So if you ran a worker, people could generate stuff using your PC. For that you would gain kudos, which in turn you can use to generate stuff on other people’s computers.

        Basically you do two things: help common people without access to powerful machines and use your capacity when you have time to use the kudos whenever you want, even on the road where you can’t turn on your PC if you fancy so.

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    I messed around with home assistant and the ollama integration. I have passed on it and just use the default one with voice commands I set up. I couldn’t really get ollama to do or say anything useful. Like I asked it what’s a good time to run on a treadmill for beginners and it told me it’s not a doctor.

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      Sounds like ollama was loaded up with an either overly censored or plain brain dead language model. Do you know which model it was? Maybe try mistral if it fits in your computer.

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      Like I asked it what’s a good time to run on a treadmill for beginners and it told me it’s not a doctor.

      Kirkland brand meseeks energy.

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        Hey now Kirkland brand is respectable, usually premium brands repackaged. Such as how Costco vodka was secretly (“secretly”) Grey Goose

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      Yeah. I have a mini PC with an AMD GPU. Even if I were to buy a big GPU I couldn’t use it. That frustrates me, because I’d love to play around with some models locally. I refuse to use anything hosted by other people.

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        Your M.2 port can probably fit an M.2 to PCIe adapter and you can use a GPU with that - ollama supports AMD GPUs just fine nowadays (well, as well as it can, rocm is still very hit or miss)