And did you also know that those old timey flights included check through baggage, actual food, rules regarding getting passengers to their destinations and a host of other amenities and important regulations that were thrown in the trash because we trusted corporations to NOT create a plane that requires you to stand up for an entire flight (an actual concept that was considered). And you know how when you search for a flight a few times, the price keeps going up? Conspicuously lacking back then along with paying extra for a seat with a window only to be told an actual window isn’t guaranteed. Yeah, there was no Internet, but it’s still true.
You can get pretty much all of things today. You just have to pay the same price you did back then, adjusted for inflation.
In the old days every single seat on airplane was basically business/first class. There was no such thing as economy.
Passengers wanted cheaper tickets, so the clas system was introduced to offer cheap economy seats, and now y’all complaining that the seats specifically invented to be as cheap as possible don’t offer the same amenities as the expensive ones.
Again, you’re completely free in your choice to use economy classe. Business class and upper class ticket prices are in the same price range today (adj. for inflation) as the tickets of old times flights.
You’re literally complaining about an option, that is entirely optional, existing, and not being as good as the more expensive ones.
Yeah, I don’t believe you. I priced flying first class to Germany from Florida and it was $3000 one way. That’s not an option for me. I doubt seriously that air travel was that expensive. I did travel with my parents as a kid and I don’t think we spent an equivalent of $6000 per person for a round trip. That’s not something they would have done.
The airlines continuously take things away and then act like it’s such a great deal if they give one back as a perk. They can go fuck themselves and if you think it’s so great you can do the same.
US Europe Round trips in the 70’s/80’s would you run you between 600 and 1000$. That would be 2300-4000$ adjusted for inflation, and could be as expensive as 1000-1500$ (up to 6000$), so I don’t really care what you think, facts disagree with you.
(Also, round trip tickets are ALWAYS cheaper than two individual one way trips, so you can’t just double to price of a one way ticket to arrive at that of a roundtrip)
You can definitely get business class seats in that price range, and if you spend some time comparing prices, I’m sure you could find first class seats in a similar range. And be real, if you’re spending 3-4 thousand dollars JUST on the plane ticket, an extra couple hundred bucks won’t kill you.
And of course segregating classes is going to make upper classes more expensive. That’s the whole point. Instead of distributing the costs of the service and seats across EVERYONE, only those who actually choose to use them pay for them. They’re more expensive because the passengers who don’t want those amenities are no longer bein forced to subsidize them for those that do.
And for comparison, an economy class round trip would cost less than a 1000$ if you book a few months advance. That’s less than half the price injusted for inflation vs. the 70’s/80’s.
And finally, believe it or not, Economy class is barely, if at all profitable for airlines. They make most of their profit from service upgrades, higher classes, shipping cargo and, in the U.S., credit card rewards programs.
If you want planes to all have even just premium economy levels space, airlines would NEED to increase ticket prices by 20-30% just to stop from selling at a loss.
And did you also know that those old timey flights included check through baggage, actual food, rules regarding getting passengers to their destinations and a host of other amenities and important regulations that were thrown in the trash because we trusted corporations to NOT create a plane that requires you to stand up for an entire flight (an actual concept that was considered). And you know how when you search for a flight a few times, the price keeps going up? Conspicuously lacking back then along with paying extra for a seat with a window only to be told an actual window isn’t guaranteed. Yeah, there was no Internet, but it’s still true.
You can get pretty much all of things today. You just have to pay the same price you did back then, adjusted for inflation.
In the old days every single seat on airplane was basically business/first class. There was no such thing as economy.
Passengers wanted cheaper tickets, so the clas system was introduced to offer cheap economy seats, and now y’all complaining that the seats specifically invented to be as cheap as possible don’t offer the same amenities as the expensive ones.
I’m complaining yes but I never asked for this.
Again, you’re completely free in your choice to use economy classe. Business class and upper class ticket prices are in the same price range today (adj. for inflation) as the tickets of old times flights.
You’re literally complaining about an option, that is entirely optional, existing, and not being as good as the more expensive ones.
Yeah, I don’t believe you. I priced flying first class to Germany from Florida and it was $3000 one way. That’s not an option for me. I doubt seriously that air travel was that expensive. I did travel with my parents as a kid and I don’t think we spent an equivalent of $6000 per person for a round trip. That’s not something they would have done.
The airlines continuously take things away and then act like it’s such a great deal if they give one back as a perk. They can go fuck themselves and if you think it’s so great you can do the same.
US Europe Round trips in the 70’s/80’s would you run you between 600 and 1000$. That would be 2300-4000$ adjusted for inflation, and could be as expensive as 1000-1500$ (up to 6000$), so I don’t really care what you think, facts disagree with you.
(Also, round trip tickets are ALWAYS cheaper than two individual one way trips, so you can’t just double to price of a one way ticket to arrive at that of a roundtrip)
You can definitely get business class seats in that price range, and if you spend some time comparing prices, I’m sure you could find first class seats in a similar range. And be real, if you’re spending 3-4 thousand dollars JUST on the plane ticket, an extra couple hundred bucks won’t kill you.
And of course segregating classes is going to make upper classes more expensive. That’s the whole point. Instead of distributing the costs of the service and seats across EVERYONE, only those who actually choose to use them pay for them. They’re more expensive because the passengers who don’t want those amenities are no longer bein forced to subsidize them for those that do.
And for comparison, an economy class round trip would cost less than a 1000$ if you book a few months advance. That’s less than half the price injusted for inflation vs. the 70’s/80’s.
And finally, believe it or not, Economy class is barely, if at all profitable for airlines. They make most of their profit from service upgrades, higher classes, shipping cargo and, in the U.S., credit card rewards programs.
If you want planes to all have even just premium economy levels space, airlines would NEED to increase ticket prices by 20-30% just to stop from selling at a loss.
Well I guess you’re right. It’s great now!