Holy shit.

  • jaybone@lemmy.zip
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    21 hours ago

    I always see this argument here.

    But on Reddit it’s just as easy to make your own new sub with a different name.

    In both cases you still have the same problem.

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      14 hours ago

      In both cases you still have the same problem

      I think for lemmy, or fediverse in general the biggest benefit is for people who owns their own instance. if let say i (from my own instance) post into some other lemmy art instance and the same thing as reddit r/art happened there and i got banned and a mod removed all my posts there. in the case of r/art and Hayden Clay, Hayden would have lost ALL his previous posts, without the ability to get it back. Even his previously wildly popular posts are nuked, along with his other portfolio. but for lemmy solo instance owners, yes the posts are removed from the community where they were banned from, but on their own instance it’s still there along with all the history, if you go back to your instance you can still get the post. From there you can just move on to other community. If a user asked for your portfolio you can just give a link back to those previous post at the very least.

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      20 hours ago

      But on Reddit it’s just as easy to make your own new sub with a different name.

      Depends on the subreddit. Many topics have what would be-called natural names that people naturally look for. Suppose you don’t like how r/television is ran. What are you gunna do? Make your own? What you gunna call it? r/tv-shows? Maybe (but that’s also already taken). r/television2? r/bettertelevision?

      Also, how are you gunna effectively advertise it? Reddit is way too big for a new small communtiy in most cases, unless it directly sources from another large community.

      You see the uphill problem here?

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        14 hours ago

        yes, it’s an uphill problem. but i would argue on lemmy or fediverse in general the slope is not as steep. For example if you’re banned in !games@lemmy.world you can just move on to !games@sh.itjust.works. banned there too? go to !gaming@lemmy.ml. places like piefed included those 3 communities into the same topic so wherever you posted people that goes to piefed gaming topic would still see your post. But then again if you find yourself eventually getting banned no matter where you bounce to, ESPECIALLY in fediverse then you have to look into the most common denominator…

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          14 hours ago

          I think it definitely can still happen, as there are no definitive ways totally prevent it. But imho the chances are less likely because the nature of fediverse where the communities are scattered (which some people feel is a weak point of fediverse) act as cushion to minimize the impact. for example i think it’s highly unlikely a mod in programming.dev community is also a a mod in sh.itjust.works.

          But let’s just say what if that guy managed to apply as mod in both place? it’s also quite unlikely if sh.itjust.works admin agree with the mod’s abusive action that programming.dev’s admin would think the same way.

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          14 hours ago

          It’s a lot less likely. Instance owners are closer to the management of the communities than Reddit admins are. Many would not accept it and remove moderators like that from their communities.