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      14 hours ago

      The crux of fascism is making your base paranoid. Make them believe all their murder is done out of self defense. If they would not kill all those other people, others would kill them.

      The perfect example is the paranoid ethnostate in the middle east.

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        13 hours ago

        The perfect example is the paranoid ethnostate in the middle east.

        You say that, but are they wrong?

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          Of course they are wrong. Palestinians have offered time and time again to have a peaceful solution but the Israelis are violent Nazis. Israelis want to murder all Palestinians and steal their land (and even more for Greater Israel)

          Replace the word Israeli with Nazi and the word Palestinian with Jews. Then you get:

          “Are the Nazis wrong to be so paranoid to think they need to kill all the Jews or they will never be able to live in peace?”

          If Israelis went back to their country of origin do you actually think Palestinians would follow them there to kill them instead of living peacefully on their own land?

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      Sorry, but I agree with this one. Not the “great” violence part, but yeah. If you are not capable of inflicting violence, you are not making a choice. You have no choice but to be harmless.

      We used to say this a good bit in r/liberalgunowners, along the lines of, “I am a peaceful man, but that does not make me harmless.” You would have a hella time pushing me hard enough to draw, but I have the choice if it comes to that.

      This notion is exactly why conservatives think they can run roughshod over us. They see us as harmless little twerps that couldn’t fight back if our life depended on it.

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        As a lefty gun owner, couldn’t agree more. Peace as a choice is only available to the folks who know how to do otherwise, and frankly even simple know-how isn’t enough. Pacifism is no virtue, peace is no natural state.