• XeroxCool@lemmy.world
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      7 days ago

      2022 was the last (most recent?) model year for the Shelby GT500. Other than that, anything recent from the Ford factory with boost has been a turbo, and just on the base 4cyl. GT350s are NA, Roush/Saleen aren’t factory, and the GT/regular V8 is NA

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        7 days ago

        GTD is a supercharged engine.

        Edit: Also looks like GT350’s are available with superchargers and Super Snakes are supercharged.

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          6 days ago

          I admit I forgot about the GTD, but it’s not immediately clear to me if that’s truly a factory vehicle. I detailed it (way too much) in my reply to your comment’s reply. The GTD gets shipped to a second facility to get finished as a GTD. So if it’s all Ford, then yes, it should count, as long as it’s still meeting production-vehicle definitions. If it changes hands to a 3rd party as a complete vehicld, it’s then not a factory vehicle, in the same way a Roush Mustang gets shipped as a complete factory Mustang to Roush, gets modified, then shipped onward to a dealer, still as a new car.

          To clarify the Shelby site linked by the other comment, some of those are definitely licensed kit upfits, though I believe all in that site are such. None are actually Ford-produced.

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          7 days ago

          The GTD is what I had in mind with my initial comment. To be fair, I don’t think you can actually buy a GTD though.

          I think the 350 and Super Snake you’re talking about are made by Shelbys and not Fords. I guess that puts them in the same category as Roush and Saleen 🤷🏻

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            6 days ago

            Preface: I forgot about the GTD, however it’s not immediately clear whether it’s actually a factory vehicle. So to just be up front, I’m not sure if it counts or not but I admit it could count.

            Anyway, it’s mixed. There are factory Shelbys from Ford, which are the “standard” Shelbys, known as SVT Shelbys. However, separate upfitters do the work for certain packages. Roush and Saleen do their upfitting in their houses, which is why they’re separate. They take a complete factory Ford, then modify it to their spec. Similarly, I know (at least, up until 2018 when I was looking at window stickers), those Shelby F-150s are 3rd-party upfitted with licensed parts. It’s the same place that did the Black Ops F-150 and I forget what other gig they did. That Shelby website doesn’t make it clear, but I’m 99% sure all of them are packages you can buy to upgrade your plain Ford Mustang. They’re licensed GT350 kits, as opposed to factory GT350s. I know it sounds ridiculous to be so pedantic, but it’s a nuance that has to be applied when reporting what manufacturers are officially building. 3rd-party upfitters are not held to nearly as many EPA and crash regulations as the original manufacturer.

            The difference is whether the complete vehicle shipped out the Ford factory door directly to a dealer or if it went to a separate upfitter as a complete vehicle, then got modified. Both can still go to a Ford dealer for sale as a new car. Roush/Saleen will have the original window sticker on the door and an upfitter window sticker/addendum added. Roush has a full size sticker on the windshield, for example.

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              6 days ago

              I completely agree with everything you wrote. There are two seperate “Shelby” Mustangs. Shelby American has never been part of Ford and the “factory” Shelbys that would go on this list if they where still in production license the Shelby name from Shelby American. The Mustangs that I linked are made independently by Shelby American and go in the aftermarket/modified category with Roush and Saleen.

              The GTD is made by Multimatic, the difference between the GTD and the other cars mentioned above is that the GTD is made on Fords behalf. Ford hired Multimatic to build the GTD because Multimatic also make the Mustang GT3 race cars. Multimatic also handled the manufacturing of the 2017 Ford GT supercar and many other high performance cars as you can see in the link. So if the GTD doesn’t count as a Ford factory car, then neither does the GT.

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                I’m amused by the prospect of removing the GT from production status by Ford. Unfortunately, I didn’t get my hands on a GT during my time at the dealership and left before the GTD existed, so I’m not sure if the nuance can include/exclude either/both. The forum presence of the GTD is severely lacking and this isn’t exactly an important distinction among the owners. So, I continue to say, the GTD appears to be a fair point that may have been missed by the list, assuming they’re not factoring in typical availability.