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    My favorite is when conservative New Yorkers react to progressive street designs with “This isn’t Amsterdam!” Bitch this is literally New Amsterdam and it was literally Dutch and why do you think it’s called Canal Street??

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      Conservative New Yorkers are so stupid, how does one live in the most expensive city in the US and not embrace socialism? Personally I think Mamdani is compromise, we need real socialism.

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    America: does the most American shit ever*

    Americans: Russia made us do this!!

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    Americans, when other Americans are being authoritarian: “What are we, a bunch of Asians?”

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      Whenever I hear Americans say this, I mentally translate it to Honest English by replacing whatever comes in the position of the noun with “untermenschen”.

      glasses-off amerikkka-clap

      glasses-on i-am-adolf-hitler

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    People seemingly love blaming others for their problems so they can avoid saying "well, maybe we’re the problem. This is called “unifying the nation against an external enemy” and it shouldn’t work this well, but it does. Russia was picked out as a target because it allows 2-in-1: unify the country against an external enemy, to present oneself as the “strong protector of home” and also distract from internal problems, but also attack the East at the same time.

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    Why is it so hard for you guys to understand that they’re all bad, all always have been?

    The US has been evil since pretty much always

    Same for China

    Same for Russia

    It’s not the people, the Chinese are all fine people I’m sure, same for Russians, same for Americans

    But their governments? ALL of them are terrible and always have been

    Stop defending the Chinese government already

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    I mean, you could make the same statement about Russia in reverse and it would also be true. Idk how much it’s done by China, I’d assume there’s some of it but I haven’t seen it much.

    Russia really likes blaming the West tho lol, as much if not more then the West like blaming Russia/China

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      Maybe that has to do with the west making it their primary goal in the 40’s-90’s to sink the Union that was capable of providing good living to it’s people and replace it with a balkanized federation run by oligarchs where a woman’s only stable job was prostitution.

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    East authoritarian countries used stupidity of Western “free market” liberals, and we’re where we’re.

    Right everyone is open with the fact that a lot of far right wing movements in Europe are founded by Russia. They are trying to do what mostly west did in the middle east decades ago. Put a lot of money into far right nationalist religious movements, and see how cultures are collapsing.

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      Russia didn’t found those groups. They find existing dissidents, give them funding, and amplify their online footprints. They really don’t care if they are left, right, or center, as long as they are pissed off and not terribly bright. Tankies of clansmen work just as well.

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        You’re saying, that giving very hard and addictive drugs to person in a crisis, isn’t creating very high rise in addicted people?

        They find the crisis, and push narrative, that it’s fault of LGBT people, or the immigrants, or people with different skin color, or different religion. Everyone who is not following what exactly state wants (skin color, religion, nation).

        They really don’t care if they are left, right, or center, as long as they are pissed off and not terribly bright.

        Not true. It’s better to push right wing agenda, since russia has nothing to do with socialism, but it’s a full on right wing authoritarian regime. Then, before Russia attacked Ukraine, a lot of right wing populists were saying that Russia is a right wing alternative for rotten west.

        Of course, there are many tankies and other shit, just to destroy the left. A lot of forums in the west, like on reddit (or on lemmy, like “memes”) will ban you for mentioning russian imperialism, or Katyn genocide.

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          You’re saying…

          Um, no? I said what I said, not that nonsense.

          They find the crisis, and push narrative

          Is this supposed to contradict something? Yes, that’s exactly what I’m talking about. They don’t create the crisis, and they don’t start the movements. They look for existing cracks in society and promote/exploit them.

          Not true. It’s better to push right wing agenda

          Prior to Trump, RT was the home of a great number of leftists. For instance, Thom Hartmann, Michael Brooks, Chris Hedges , and others were on RT. (My jab about not being very smart doesn’t apply in this case, and was intended more for the tankies).

          What is true is that there are a hell of a lot more right wing commentators who are willing to conform their messaging to whatever their funders demand.