It’s not hard to find videos of self-driving Teslas wilding in bus lanes. Check the videos out, then consider:

"There was an interesting side-note in Tesla’s last earnings call, where they explained the main challenge of releasing Full-Self Driving (supervised!) in China was a quirk of Chinese roads: the bus-only lanes.

Well, jeez, we have bus-only lanes here in Chicago, too. Like many other American metropolises… including Austin TX, where Tesla plans to rollout unsupervised autonomous vehicles in a matter of weeks…"

It’s one of those regional differences to driving that make a generalizable self-driving platform an exceedingly tough technical nut to crack… unless you’re willing to just plain ignore the local rules.

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    5 days ago

    You may not have much experience with autopilots, so no. There are different levels of autopilots in aviation, not just the full control with auto-land you may be thinking of. I used to fly a small prop plane with single axis autopilot. much less capable than Tesla full self-driving. However it was safe and useful because I understood its capabilities and limitations. I knew what to use it for and what not, so even an extremely simple analog autopilot successfully reduced pilot workload, improving safety

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        5 days ago

        Well yeah, because Tesla don’t make planes so their FSD wouldn’t know what to do when in control of a plane.

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          4 days ago

          It would also have killed you in one of their cars probably

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                Funny, because one random one of those that I picked:

                https://archive.md/EJMvC

                was marked as “Verified Tesla Autopilot Death”…when all it is is a lawsuit has filed claiming that autopilot resulted in the death. Funnily enough almost every one that I look at is not actually “verified”. This one:

                https://web.archive.org/web/20240104001740/

                Never even mentions autopilot or FSD.

                The fine print down the bottom of the page basically says “yeah nah we don’t actually know if autopilot or FSD played any part at all in these accidents or deaths, but we don’t care because the NHTSA says that the cars have autopilot” lol. The “SGO” they put next to ones that have “confirmed autopilot death” as proof is rubbish, because according to the NHTSA who collect the SGO data, they say this about the ADS/ADAS that this spreadsheet says caused the crash:

                It is important to note that these crashes are categorized based on what driving automation system was reported as being equipped on the vehicle, not on what system was reported to be engaged at the time of the incident.

                Source: https://www.nhtsa.gov/laws-regulations/standing-general-order-crash-reporting

                So basically the people making this site have gone “OMG the SGO categorized this as a Automated Driving System crash!!! That means Autopilot/FSD caused the crash!!!” before reading what that category actually means lol. Well either that or they do know (most likely) and have a bit of an agenda.

                BTW here is another lawsuit over a death where Autopilot was claimed to have caused it:

                https://archive.md/1SybT

                What was the truth? The driver was drunk and didn’t even have autopilot activated. Tesla won the court case. It’s almost like people lie when faced with the consequences of their own, or their loved ones, actions and want someone else to be to blame.

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                  4 days ago

                  You really believe FSD hasn’t killed anybody yet?

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                    All I’m saying is that none have been proven to have actually killed anyone yet in a court of law, and that your claim of 57 FSD/Autopilot caused deaths is bogus for all the reasons I listed.

                    Even if FSD has killed people - which it likely has - is it at any rate higher than normal people in non FSD cars crash and kill people? Given how Teslas are one of the highest selling cars in the world for the last what, 10 years, and how many people use Autpilot or FSD multiple times a day, even if 57 people had been killed by it, that would still be probably no more than the number of people that drive any other model of car with the same amount of sales during that timeframe.