It’s not that liberals believe in nothing. It’s that liberals have a very contradictory world view. They want peace, love, decency, etc. but not at the cost of actually changing the status quo.

As other users have said in this thread, liberals are actually white/western supremacists who think they are loving and tolerant. So the vast majority of their beliefs amount to nothing in the end because they have no desire to remove existing power structures

It’s also why liberals always get rolled by fascists. They think fascists want to play by these silly social niceties and therefore legitimize hateful and down right ridiculous ideas from fascists

Liberals believe stuff, they just don’t believe anything is possible. They believe in a ton of disparate things they pick up in their ideological shopping cart that have nothing to do with each other and then jam them all together, regardless of contradictions or outright mutual exclusivity. This creates fundamental structural impossibilities in their belief system, and they just accept it.

They believe in equal opportunity at the same time and with the same intensity as they believe that rich parents should be able to help their children get ahead. It’s impossible to have both, and they reconcile this by saying “perfection is the enemy of the good” and then find some stupid horrible middle ground. Instead of just eliminating debt so everyone has equal opportunity to go to college, we eliminate the debt for Pell Grant recipients who start a business that operates for three years in a disadvantaged community.

Liberals believe in nothing in the sense that they don’t have consistent views or hardline values beyond preserving the status quo.

They don’t have convictions.

Adding to everyone else and saying, I have always seen liberal beliefs as basically hypocrisy. Like that’s it, all of their idealisms are just hypocrisy. They won’t admit it of course, but that’s what it is. It’s all that is it. And when you entire belief system is being a hypocrite, then really, you believe in nothing at all cause it all counters itself.

Liberalism is a system born out of systems that were created out of material conditions.

Maybe “believing in nothing” is not the best way to say it, but I think it’s referring to how if you question them on things like: “Clearly not everyone is born equal, so how do we make it true?”

They will just throw more metaphysics at you.

One example posted on the grad isn’t many. But that aside, liberals definitely believe in something. What that is can look confusing at times because it’s often not the benefits they are made out to be and there can be a certain amount of cognitive dissonance going on.

But there are themes revolving around individualism, personal liberties, and a capitalist economy / power structure. This primarily benefits the bourgeoisie because they’re the ones who can actually benefit from these things realistically.

As benefits go:

For the bourgeoisie, capitalism is power. For the working class, capitalism is lattes. For the bourgeoisie, personal liberties can be assured through money where laws fail them. For the working class, personal liberties have to be fought for and there is no guarantee the system will work for them at all. For the bourgeoisie, individualism implicitly validates whatever behavior they get up to as a reasonable expression of humanity and validates the idea that they don’t need to care about anyone else in society if they don’t want to; with the kind of power they can hold, this can validate horrific things. For the working class, individualism is more like, getting to decide whether they wear shoes indoors, in their place of residence; they are still beholden to society for the majority of their waking life, whether through bosses at work or laws in a court.

So, much of what the bourgeoisie gains from liberalism, the working class does not actually get, whether they believe in liberalism or not. The working class also gets out of it things like: enormous political repression, having to fight tooth and nail for any rights at all in the work place, being more disconnected and isolated from others.

It is likely that in the imperial west, because this dynamic is complicated by the benefits some get from the spoils of imperialism, some liberals who would otherwise more easily see how little the system benefits them more easily believe in it. Either way, I don’t think the working class ones tend to realize just how much a difference there is in the benefits a capitalist gets from the system. The working class liberal is choosing what movie to watch. The billionaire is choosing what country to own. These are not the same.

I think it works like this:

Liberals believe only in white supremacy

Liberalism is essentially a cover story for that, since openly believing in white supremacy is frowned upon

Therefore liberals don’t believe in anything they say they believe, so one could say “Liberals believe in nothing (about liberalism)”

Communists truly believe in communism, so liberals come off as fake (because they are).

Edit: accidentally clicked post too early