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Cake day: August 11th, 2024

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  • Okay, I want to dicuss this more later. It’s interesting to me to think about something as taboo as limiting free speech, but I get what you mean. The power the bourgeoisie have to control the news and media and therefore public opinion is crazy. My first thought was limiting their twitter usage, which I do think would be wrong. But limiting their ability to manipulate twitter with money or other, similar tactics would fall under the same umbrella. (Hopefully Ninja edit: but should be prevented, I mean! They shouldn’t be allowed to use their wealth to influence. But I don’t think their literal speech should be restricted! Unless they break the rules or something and get banned or something ykwim)

    I know, I see the .ml 🤣

    I think the morals of it are important for the sake of optics in the least. If oppression implies a cruelty and injustice (at the very least in some minds, mine included, and probably most people given the dictionaries I read/bing search results) which is not associated with the movement, it might be better to not use those words. Fair?


  • Okay, so what I’m saying is that the definition I’m reading cites “injustice” and “cruelty” as prerequisites.

    “prolonged cruel or unjust treatment or control” (oxford)

    “the state of being subject to unjust treatment or control” (oxford)

    “mental pressure or distress” (oxford- but this is the third definition and seems like a much more general word that isn’t really useful in these conversations when trying to define systems)

    “unjust or cruel exercise of authority or power” (merriam-webster)

    Merriam-webster then also has 2 more definitions similar to the oxford counterparts.

    “a situation in which people are governed in an unfair and cruel way and prevented from having opportunities and freedom” (Cambridge)

    I stopped looking after that, but I think that’s fair, no? So then if we DO agree about these definitions, do you really consider it cruel or unjust towards the hoarders of capital?





  • Right. You weren’t literally forced to vape. You were left with no other accessible choice except vaping to continue your addiction.

    And you completely failed to refute what I said. Your situation was just completely different. The other commenter went into the situation deliberately intending to cut back on their tobacco use. You, on the other hand, went into the situation deliberately intending to find a way to sustain your nicotine addiction. Do you not understand that? Your situation is that you were seeking to dive further into addiction. So that’s what happened. And you can blame the chemicals for your addiction all you want, but as an addict myself, I know that you are self-indulgent and not blameless in that situation. You. Chose. To. Start. Vaping. Because. You. Wanted. To. Continue. Your. Nicotine. Intake.

    Did that slow it down enough for you, bud?







  • Well, equality is sometimes referred to in the vain of “everyone is equal” rather than “everyone is treated equal”. I think that might be what it’s saying. When the social idea of equality first emerged, I cannot imagine even for a second that they were like “yeah, everyone should be given exactly the same things regardless of their personal situation”, because nobody striving for an idea LIKE equality would come to that resolution. Like, equity is just what equality should have been in the first place.