Joe :tinoflag:

@Fizz @Davriellelouna, if you’re killing someone you shouldn’t be able to enjoy the comforts of home while the ripples of your action devastate the lives of those around the deceased, imho the sentence should have your judgement as follow on once released.

@absGeekNZ, a good start is targeting the biggest polluters though, isn’t it?

@Dave @absGeekNZ, loss of profits are unfortunately still the best motivator in a world running on old-fashioned, exploitative (on every level) capitalism.

@Dave, ah yes, unfortunately not many governments are a representation of their people anymore and even fewer are interested in acting for their benefits.

@Dave, my point was that these arbitrators are already known and it can be more effective telling people who to boycott than launching rockets for a ‘showy’
finger point and tell.
Most if not all of these companies give a flying duck for those trying to hold them accountable.

@Dave @absGeekNZ, shouldn’t we also consider whether it’s necessary to pollute to find out more about pollution?
If successful and we confirm what we already know, how much will this contribute to effective change?
Is this the best use of $ for its cause?

@Davriellelouna, the destructiveness of this government follows more and more the Musk - Trump idiocy.

@Jimmycakes @Davriellelouna, haha, nor the government.

@BalpeenHammer, I’m a control freak, haha, not really.
I’ve, from early age, loved pulling things apart and figuring out what makes them work and found hands deserved to be a tool worth for more than just ten finger typewriting, etc.
These days we’re often ending up in the ‘monetary scraping by/time poor’
box and so rely on others in their fields of (greater/lesser) expertise…

@BalpeenHammer, Trade Checka, Builders Check, looking at jobs done, word of mouth…
I do a lot of stuff I need done myself so my dependence on others is low.

@BalpeenHammer, I guess that’s where the ‘buyer beware’ comes in.
I do background checks or recommendations from people I know. I think you still can be unlucky as times. I like to trust people but I verify as good as I can, especially when big sums are involved.