Hucklebee

Although I’m not a conservative myself, I still see a case to be made for a government that is “conservative”. I.e. a government that doesn’t respond with a law for every single small thing. There is a danger to turn a country into a bureaucratic nightmare. Where people will find loopholes in laws, and a government responds by patching that loophole up with another law or clause. A labyrinth of laws can and will cause suffering for people that are edge cases.

Or do I read the term “government conservatism” wrong here?

So, I live in a European country where our right-wing politics would probably be considered “left” by Republican Americans.

I vote sort of central. Not too left, not too right. Even though I disagree with many things that our rightwinged politicians stand for, I can see some merit in them at times. The same with our left-leaning politicians.

When I see discussions among Americans, it seems to me either party just hates the other party, automatically calling them bigoted. And it comes across as a heavily divided country without any hope for reconciliation.

So 2 questions: Republicans: is there any democratic strength you wish your party would implement?

And democrats: is there any republican strength that you wish your party would implement?

I’m gonna play devils advocate here… it’s easy to say “don’t hate these people in that other country” when these two countries have decades, if not hundreds of years of violence, hatred and conflict between them. You cannot look at what’s happening while ignoring the past 600+ years.

In ww2, there was no actual reason to hate jews. In this situation, the two parties have had actual conflict with actual victims for hundreds of years.

It only takes the wrong people in power at the right time to have this timebomb explodes like it did.

Is it right? Hell No. But the morales at play here are grounded in a vastly different way than with the nazis.

So, hot take here: preface this with saying I absolutely condemn the surveillance by Israel here.

But I think it’s wrong to judge a nation by what they’ve gone through themselves, with an attitude of " they should know better". Just because the Holocaust happened, doesn’t mean that Israel has better morales or values, or that they would never do such things themselves. Humans are humans. With the wrong people in power, horrible things happen.

It’s perfectly reasonable and necessary to argue that Israel is currently violating human right laws. We should keep doing that.

It is not reasonable to keep pointing at the holocaust and nazi germany as a stick of " look, you became the thing you suffered under", unless in a context of learning from history. “You should know better” creates unreasonable expectations where some nations ought to have higher morales somehow.

Edit: I ment condemn, not condone. Apologies