Why didn’t you say that?! I’m over here thinking you’re a troll!

Yes it’s complicated, I agree. My perception of his presidency was that he didn’t try hard enough to get things pushed through.

I know he is a centrist so he would never have pushed for an economic agenda that’s more keynesian. I just wish he fought harder as a president. This is why I think he laid the foundation for Trump’s rightwing populism.

Yeah, vaguely gesturing about the difficulties of a party having all 3 branches of government for 4 months and passing legislation that almost helps everyone.

Obama was a mediocre president.

I like to believe there is going to be a movement that pushes for real populist economic policy. Imho, first It’s going to take having more conversations like this one. Then the ol’ educate, agitate, and organize.

We have arrived at a disagreement. I believe things can get better.

Right, so no beliefs. Now we can continue posting back and forth out of spite.

I have no issues with that statement. I would agree with you. Would you agree we can do better?

You got lucky. I’m understanding how vacuous your argument is and, it’s making me curious if you have any beliefs.

Do you have any positions or is glazing Obama the extent of it?

It absolutely made me feel better. Thank you.

Please elaborate.

Ok, this isn’t going anywhere.

Your point was that he got people health care coverage that otherwise wouldn’t have been covered. I agreed with that point.

My point is that his presidency led us to trump.

No, I’m speaking directly to his policy decisions and his inability/unwillingness to protect the American people from corporate greed.

Seriously, engage with his whole presidency. How would you rate his performance in it’s totality?

You said he “gave people access to healthcare” I agreed.

What else is there to engage with in your comment?

Assist me in understanding.

I read the narrative you were trying to convey. He did a good thing giving protections against healthcare availability.

Why does that remove him from mediocrity?

I gave him credit for the affordable care act in my previous comment. I weighed it against his other shortcomings.

Still mediocre.

Apparently I have a conservative mindset for thinking Obama could have done much more with the power he had.

I don’t think that’s the argument being made. I can’t speak for OP but, Obama was objectively a mediocre president.

He was a wall street loving centrist democratic politician.

He campaigned on change and then he bailed out the big banks when the shit hit the fan. Sure, he had some redeeming policies. (ACA and such)

However, this does not detract from the fact that he created no tangible change to the status quo. His shortcomings led directly to the rise of the same rightwing populism that’s decimating government institutions today.

Good guy physiognomy sounds fake until you see those three in the same room.