In that case I’d argue you can look at it from a different perspective: nothing bad is forever. Even brands - and people - directly complicit in genocide can change for the better, and before that; seemingly regular people can be driven to commit mad atrocities. This is a very important lesson today especially, as we are repeating history

Here in Sweden most people use Swish

So, if the Volkswagen Group car brands all dissolved and the people in charge created a new company that’d be just fine? Why would we boycott a company for what happened 80 years ago? We can just build a wall around Germany then.

What exactly is problematic? The past has happened and it cannot be changed; how you deal with it is the only question, and the Germans in particular have dealt with it admirably. It only matters what they do with they’re given. Nothing is static, especially not a company which is just a reflection of their owners and employees.

Would it make you or anyone happier if we drove in Skodas rather than Volkswagens?

Unless it’s the same people in charge of the company as it was in 1941 then it doesn’t matter. Everyone knows that many German companies have a terrible past, but they’ve long since taken a clear stance against it. There is literally no correlation between these German car brands and Tesla. It matters what they do today (and possibly the recent past).

If you want to boycott things over the distant past you literally couldn’t use anything.

Tesla deserves this because of Elon’s current actions. If he steps or gets removed and Tesla continues to operate with a different philosophy there should be no issue with them in, say, 15 years.

How is it in any way relevant what German car makers were doing 80+ years ago? Unless you also think all modern-day Germans should be “cancelled”.

Apart from that I agree, the American car lobby has been terrible for public transport development and green energy

I mean, if it’s in Saudi Arabia you know the royal family is in full control, so in this it kind of makes sense

I’m almost there! Gonna install a new OS on my phone in the weekend, then I’m completely murica free.

Next step: convincing and helping others

Edit: except my payment cards, although I try to use my phone whenever I can (which still uses SWIFT, I guess)