I agree. My problem now is that people like Tlaib were who I looked to for how things could change, and yet here they are enabling worse instead of fighting for better. I can’t square that circle, and it means I’m losing one of the last bastions of hope I had for a better world.

I agree with your second paragraph, and find your third to be understandable (though I would contend that propaganda has been a problem for a long time now and wasn’t made meaningfully worse by tech, just different). Where I lose you completely though is this comment’s first statement.

Neither of your other points stated here back up a lack of empathy. In fact, they counter it, as you’ve provided two far better things to get mad at. I hope you haven’t abandoned empathy because it didn’t change minds, because empathy isn’t supposed to be contingent on getting people to agree with you.

I’m aware. My point was that this wasn’t a majority even besides that. Not sure why you seem to be phrasing this as a counterpoint, though, given that it reinforces my comment?

I said most of what I wanted to say in this comment, but I’d like to take an extra moment here to point out that you are currently making excuses for fascists.

Putting it bluntly, I don’t give a flying fuck how many people voted for Trump – which wasn’t the majority, by the way, since not everyone votes – there is no amount of votes that makes “doing fascism” okay. Trump is not a force of nature. He does not get absolved of blame. This rests on his shoulders more than anyone.

I’m so sick and tired of this gleeful throw-people-under-the-bus attitude that effectively dehumanizes people because they “voted wrong,” as if there aren’t millions of people among Trump’s voterbase who were effectively tricked by an entire network of con-men and grifters. As if there isn’t a giant oil-baron-funded media machine working tirelessly to convince people of a smorgasbord of lies.

I find it disgusting how easily you and others with similar takes will cheer on the suffering of your fellows. And let the Republican Party off scot-free in the process. Because apparently blaming a bunch of people who – let’s be real – by-and-large don’t pay attention to politics is apparently more important than blaming the people who’re deliberately engineering mass suffering. Not to mention how you’re currently partaking in schadenfreude over a problem that’s affecting many people you ostensibly agree with and care about! Everybody in America has to deal with the consequences of this bill!

Nobody in the U.S. voted for censorship or for fascism, save an extraordinarily scant few terrible, terrible people. If you decide that vast swathes of people “deserve this” all because of that few, I don’t think you ever actually wanted to help anyone so much as you wanted an excuse not to have to care.

The thing is, AOC herself spoke out against this bill according to this article. And I really, really want her to explain this one, as much as I do not expect that she will.

I don’t know how in the world I’m expected to have any faith whatsoever in our governance at any level when even our ostensibly most progressive voices aren’t willing to block blatant garbage like this.

Update: Welp, late today this passed the House overwhelmingly, 409-2. The only two nay vote were from Republicans Thomas Massie and Eric Burlison.

Hey yeah can anyone fucking explain to me why AOC and Rashida Tlaib voted yes on this dogshit?

Many of the comments here provide salient criticism you’ve chosen to ignore. I don’t know why you’re even here anymore if you’re just going to fight everybody and plug your ears when they call you out.

Accusing people of bad faith without reason just because they disagree with you is one of the most disingenuous things you can do.

My opinion of your posts here was already low. This has not helped.

Several months back, we had a user who would post articles about China almost every day, to several places across Lemmy. They did this for months straight, and eventually some other users showed up for a bit just like them. It took a lot of pushback for them to leave.

It was frustrating as hell, because suddenly I 1) couldn’t avoid hearing about China when I went on Beehaw, and 2) started to reflexively ignore any articles about China because I couldn’t trust them anymore. They were almost exclusively negative, they’d get posted ridiculously often, and occasionally they’d just be outright racist in the tried-and-true “we considered this acceptable/ignorable until it happened in China” sense. You don’t listen to people who post like that. Months after they left, I finally started to be able to actually take headlines about China seriously again, and it was nice!

And now here’s you, starting up almost the exact same posting pattern those users had. I don’t know if there’s a Lemmy instance somewhere that just has a bunch of folks like you and you keep wandering over here, or if you’re one of those users back with new account. I barely care which it is. I just really don’t want this shit back.

Please go find a hobby.