‘Excuse the ignorance’, no problem, we all start from the same cesspool of Capitalist propaganda, and I don’t have all the answers either, but I can put you on a much better information track if you want it. Your post is a bit ‘heavy’ on the propaganda side, so ‘What we are told’ is the key sentence here that I need to talk about.

Not sure where to start really, but here goes (excuse lack of details and sources for this long one): Firstly, ‘socialism’ is more a temporary mode of production towards full communism - a peoples community at nation-scale, no oppression by rich fascist fckers, no monetary hierarchy. Socialism or the end goal of Communism does not dictate, strengthen or even have a specific need for surveillance/censorship. In fact, the closer to Communism, the less the need for such things - unless the citizens are being attacked from the outside by the usual fascist fuckers. There certainly can be a lot of surveillance, but not to control people - to safeguard people. That is what you see in socialist/communist nations, and you feel safe, not surveilled by capitalist removed that want everything you got. Society are being discussed in these nations. There are no2little surveillance-capitalism that surveils only to harm you in a full communist society. I doubt that anyone are perfect, and mistakes absolutely have been made trying to get away from the Capitalist oppression and eternal wars, but they are just better for people than fascist (Capitalist controlled) nations. The whole point of socialism/communism is to create a society where ordinary people can prosper without fascist psychopath owners entering/controlling every part of your life - to suck you dry for THEIR benefit. Common ownership of resources/production is just one level of socialism - pro-social systems, Communism is the whole package, a society by the people, for the people.

I’ll just assume that you already know that US and their Western vassal nations are neither ‘democratic’, free’, have ‘free speech’ or any other silly dogmatic/marketing words. US elites colonises other nations through several attack vectors: Military projection/playing opponents against each other (They learned how by the UK), monetary pressure/favourable trade-‘agreements’ and buying of local corrupt elites and ‘power-positions’ (academia, media and ‘Epstein’ types etc) in society, ‘business schools’ as small propaganda centres that churn out hundred thousands capitalist/free market believers every year that fight vehemently for the Epstein class’ favourite economic system, but another strong one being control of information/propaganda. You have already noticed that while searching.

You can read about how they do these things in the Chinese paper called 'Colonization_of_the_Mind. There are oc many other documents, papers, books and documentaries etc that describes how it works, so its not a secret - just hidden/removed from the information sphere as you have already noticed (search engines, Wikipedia manipulation and you name it, they manipulate it). Oh, and NO western society are interested in ‘privacy’, but still supports systems that can go through socialist/communists firewalls. THAT is the whole reason for soc/com firewalls and their own social networks+censorship of US propaganda (T-square and Uyghur nonsense and so on), not that they are ‘hiding the truth’ for their citizens as US propaganda would claim. To understand this, you might need to follow what wars - and their purpose - US have been at for almost a hundred years. All socialist/communist nations, or just those that didn’t want US scum elite to own their nations (hello S.America) have been in a cold/warm war with US ALL this time. US elite never stops - no matter what they say in public. Most ‘enemies’ now agree that US are ‘agreement-incapable’ as they always make deals, but consequently break them when needed.

Let’s be honest: US are good at it !! No firewall = no information defense = US will colonise your nation. ANY nation that doesn’t have a ‘firewall’ with their own social networks SN etc WILL be colonised eventually. It can happen many ways, but for SN, US, through google/yt, facebook, X, (and even on federated sn) creates groups of local dissent based on lies/censorship of truths, and they trigger uprisings through coordination with other CIA attack-vectors. ALL color-revolutions was nothing but US showing their information-management powers. Pretty scary stuff tbh…

EU and other (Nato) current US vassal states did not know what hit them, and the last 30 years we have seen EU citizens go from having true Communist and Socialist parties and interests, to now only have propagandised neo-liberals/globalists - all just Capitalists. And we are almost at US low-levels where a good hearted Communist that only want the fascist shitters to stop extorting and manipulating peoples lives for their own benefit - the best for ordinary citizens - are called ‘Commies’ and ‘Tankies’ and almost spat on. Remarkable work by the US propaganda apparatus (biggest in human history) ! PRC, and DRPK fared much better although they have been attacked by US forever.

Ukraine on the other hand… (oh-oh, did you think that was a clear case of bad Russia? It’s not, sorry, but you can skip this section if you are too convinced/angry!) …Ukr did not have a firewall either, and didn’t have a chance. CIA with Victoria Nuland et al. as lead spent at least 5b$ to manipulate Ukrainian corrupt elite, history-books, create nationalists and everything above - all to become an angry proxy warrior against US’ enemy Russia. All of Maidan etc was just std CIA ops. It’s all documented, but US can create a deliberate echo-chamber - a lynch-mob - in the entire US vassal information sphere, that wont even look at information that goes against the official CIA induced narrative.

I better stop here, as I’m already way beyond what is ‘acceptable’ claims in the western echo-chamber, but I should add that ‘Trump’ does the exact same in foreign affairs as ALL his predecessors, so that means that US foreign policy - what I have loosely described above - continues unaffected by what side of the US oligarch uniparty - sorry, which ‘administration’ - have the presidency. They are the same, and not in charge of much really.

It doesn’t look so, but I have not written anything controversial here - at all. A few errors and missing angles oc, but nothing horribly wrong. If you want closer to ‘truth’, then look away from all pro-US outlets. Look for socialist/communist wiki’s as they are not manipulated, look for independent journalism that are not sponsored by the elite, look for those Scientists that dare to go against the narrative, look for anyone that does NOT repeat what US gov says is the truth, and never watch western ‘news’, follow for-profit SN’s and for profit media - ‘for profit’ beats real journalism every time. Finally, ask here and ask all the so-called ‘tankies’ for what they know - they are the most knowable geo-political followers I’ve ever met. Expect that ALL western information is colored by this crap narratives from the last many decades, and expect that everything is much much worse than what you are ready to accept. If you use AI, then make sure to ask for a system-critic perspective, or it will default to all the western propaganda also.

If you can break out of the US Oligarch echo-chamber, then we’ll see you on the other side…

Cool. ‘…NPO, or Near-Packaged Optics’

While not the same, the folding logic technique that stacks several processing layers on their new cpu’s, also focus on data-transmissions and thus saves on heat, quicker transport, and a few other secondary benefits.

It seem like Huawei rethinks communication on all HW scales. …and that thinking ‘kind of’ goes for Chinese AI models also. Impressive that Huawei/China can jump in and teach old dogs some new tricks, imho…

Wonder if we will get active-computing ram where data+simple compute mostly stays on ram, active computing screens or other ‘crazy’ optimisations on traditional designs. At least I’m confident where it will come from…

Not me. Just searched for tests, and found this guy:

Quick recap: He tests glm5.2(744gb version) on a mac m2, and a rtx5090 workstation. The very short context tests are not completely the same, he does no warm tests, and he doesn’t test the cluster feature, or any multi ssd setups etc.

M2 32gb external drive: cold start: ~2minutes ttft (time to first token), 0.1 tps. PC 64gb internal drive + rtx5090: cold start: ~17 seconds ttft, 0.8 tps

His conclusion is that the amount of memory is still the most important thing as warm runs should cache all experts etc.

This guy compare simple colibri with llama.cpp with a hidden flag ‘-nr’, and as soon as the context gets longer than ‘What is the Capitol of yadayada’, llama.cpp are much faster, and rising with context length. At 3K context, llama.cpp is 8+ * faster. Std. Colibri stays at same low tps no matter context length, but have a quicker ttft. He has a few links to similar projects in description.

end of test-vid recap…

AnsarUllah, AnsarOllah, or AnsarAllah ?

Western search are one big propaganda bubble, so I don’t know which site-urls and terms are US propaganda or legit local/revolutionary urls/words. It seems as ‘Ansar’ is ‘helper’/‘supporter’ and ‘Allah’ is what their revolution supports - so ‘Supporters of Allah’ -> ‘Ansar Allah’ seems logical to me ?

What do they call themselves, and where do the other versions come from ?

Hm, replace “AI will kill us all” with “Communism will kill us all”, and the fanaticism and closed minds suddenly feels scarily familiar. Echo-chambers based on emotions - ‘Lynch-mobs’ - are an ugly thing to work with.

I don’t have any time atmo, but to dive in and resolve it, we could try to explore the space fully our selves. Most of the people there likely won’t recognise root-causes, or current position like an anti-cap system-critic can, and we can change position/perspectives temporarily between our own, theirs and from a new intellectual ‘species’ and explore what paths leads from that starting point A, to potential AI-doom scenarios B, like blade-runner/2077 style eternal fascism by elite shtters, to outright death of us all by completely new overlords taking over.

Point is that we likely doesn’t need their strong emotions, and hence locked down intellect, to explore that space and we can then map peoples attitudes/claims in and see where they diverge in initial observations, assumed premises, and path conclusions.

We can then put forward arguments that puncture large groups of paths. A lynch-mob will oc not listen, but a positive side-effect is that our own attitudes/beliefs also get a reality check - as none of us actually knows all the potential paths and end games - and hopefully/expectedly, they are not right that all paths lead to extinction.

I.E are there a path to global Communism and co-existence with other kinds of intellects, and what needs to be in place/be removed for that to likely happen ?

I’m not sure how it stacks up with the rest, but for web: https://mapcarta.com/

“Explore the globe with Mapcarta—the open map that unites the world through the collective knowledge of OpenStreetMap, Wikipedia, Wikidata, and other open projects.”

There is no rational humanitarian choice between the two futures. The 2077 scenario has to go away. Simple as that.

I, we, have to reject, boycott and fight all big proprietary AI Corporations and support, so they can’t create the 2077 - or ‘Blade Runner’ - version of our future. Global Communism is the natural state of living together when we can design the future we want. We can produce anything we need in an intelligent circular eco-system instead of hoarding/fighting for artificially scarce resources, while thrashing our whole planetary habitat at the same time. We can setup the environment and systems for everyone to prosper and flourish with the passions they have.

We no longer need to ‘compete’ at all cost, and we are not in a hurry for anything except solving the problems our current system generate. We don’t need to fight against everyone else for our basic livelihood and security - we just need common access to shared resources. We can do better than insects and other low-cognition organisms that can’t fathom, or redesign their world, and thus need to compete for survival - all the time…

Let’s choose not to behave like that any more.

I definitely support Deepseek in its cause, and reject proprietary Corporations and their narrow-minded insect-like doctrines and visions for our common future…

Earlier this year, the Army announced that it was “bringing back the war horse”.

Might just be because Ukraine ran out of vehicles, tried Horses, and in the few vids I’ve seen, Russian drone operators tried to avoid hitting the four-legged animals…

I kind of hope they’ll out-compete the archaic Western Nobel foundation. Nobel neo-liberals don’t do much good for Science at all, and the whole thing is soaked - ‘reaked’ - in classical western elitist wrappings…

‘it is always nice to support the home team.’

It’s a nice sentiment on the surface, but it’s a huge fundamental mistake to think that EU elite is not the same as the US elite. That means he is not escaping anything.

EU (+Nato) have all been US vassal-states since WW2, and while we have had a few socialist societies/movements around the 70’es, US Epstein class have been attacking them relentlessly in every way possible; militarily on Yugoslavia (the main socialist nation) and the rest of it, + information war on everyone from academia to media, to politicians, + support of local fascist Oligarchs + right-wing ‘free market’ belief-systems (free markets Capitalism are the most profitable ideological substrate for the Epstein Class - also in EU). All NGO’s are propaganda outlets for the Epstein Empire. They won’t change or touch the fundamental problem of rich pschopaths running our ‘free’ world through violence.

In fact, EU/Nato elite scum sold out their nations to the US elite - pure treason, but no-body knows, and no Capitalist right-wing politicians or journalists/media are telling the story, so people are happily ignorant, getting manipulated/nudged around and every day supporting all the US oligarch wars all around the world against pro-claimed ‘Red Dictators’, while living in the most controlled and unfree and violent nations in the world.

WE are the ‘Baddies’ - and have been so for around 500 years - We are still colonising and killing of pro-social people and nations around the world !!

The fact is that everything US tells our elite to do, is happening, and all this ‘Bad Trump’ + ‘Let’s isolate from US’ business is just a standard surface scam (a bit more this time, but irrelevant). US elite do this good cop/bad cop ALL the time, and then apologise/shame the bad cop and promises change in a ‘reset’, but it never comes. It’s a switcheroo routine. EU (and rest of Nato) have been ideologically, politically and economically colonised completely for approx. 35 years. There’s even a map from Soro’s ‘open society’ where they show how the information/conversion campaign have went. Nordic nations WAS very pro-social once, but are now just small mini-US pro-Epstein nations, and Baltic citizens are the newest addition, very propagandised, and everyone have little to zero understanding of who/how their nations and their lives are run, or even where to find critical information (Oligarchs own/can manipulate ALL the search/information portals in the western sphere - yes, also wikipedia!). There’s no Democracy in US (never really were), and that goes for EU/Nato nations also.

But worst of all, is that all EU citizens still think they receive real unbiased information from their media and their unbiased ‘Journalists’, but real critical journalists are not hired in a media-sphere owned/controlled by Oligarchs. Public media are hi-jacked by people placed there by the Oligarchs, so same rule apply. Result is that EU citizens are extremely ignorant, gullible, follows the Epsteins (+Trump+Biden+all the others) narrative to the letter, and as seen in this article, still believe their nations are more ‘Democratic’, ‘free’, and have more ‘free speech’ than the hyper controlled US - pure nonsense ignorance, and interestingly enough by its own, are all societal marketing-words from the Epstein class that doesn’t give a shit about any of that.

So, the main way to get out of the Western Epstein/Trump/Oligarch grip, is actually to use Chinese, or Russian server providers, but oc, our western Oligarchy have gone for a full scale information war on those ‘wevil autocracies’ = other nations that refuse to surrender/succumb to the western fascist elite - our top psychopaths. So all the EU/Nato manipulated citizens refuse to use servers from ‘those pesky evil nations with dictators’ - sigh…

Oc, none of the above is recognisable for someone who is living in the suburbs of the Epstein Empire - why should it ? Our western Epstein-elite overlords controls the Western citizens opinions by controlling access to information. ‘Control the information’ topples any ‘democratic’ or rational thought, and are one part of what is called “Manufacturing Consent” (the other being ‘control the key power-positions’). Because of that, they can then allow these mock-up ‘elections’ that doesn’t really threaten the capitalist substrate, or change anything fundamentally, and get the citizens to hate or love whatever the rich Epstein class wants them to hate or love.

This works great for them. The Western investigative/critical ‘Journalistic’ media sphere is gone, any pro-social political movement is gone, all ‘Cause-Activists’ are suppressed, and Symptom-activists: climate, color, sexuality, unions etc, allowed, and every part of our society are semi, to fully controlled by rich pigs in the same top-down hierarchical (dictatorial) Oligarch fashion as in US. All our infra-structure - from politics to information to data-centers and corps are the same Pschopath power structure as in the US, and no-one, not this article guy either, can escape it without understanding how it all works, and how insanely manipulated they are.

All information that describes the above DOES still exist, ARE still available, and ARE often shown by all those that have fought the Epstein fckers forever and ever. But these are often the ‘well-known’ wevil ‘far-left conspiracy-theorists’ (socialists and communists usually), so the now manipulated mob hates these anti-Epstein activists, and refuse to listen to them. Pity, that these tireless cause-activists are silenced and ignored by those that are most manipulated and therefore need it the information the most…

Are you beginning to see how it all works? …probably not, but someone has to try explaining once in a while. Good luck ‘rebelling’ by sucking rectum on EU ‘Epsteins’ instead of US ‘Epstein’ rectums… Go go, you manipulated EU/Nato symptom-activists, you will change …nothing…

Notice that these ridiculous ‘news’ are NOT immediately pulled apart by ‘The Guardian’ - even when it is completely obvious.

The Guardian are NOT an unbiased ‘lefty’ news-paper, but just a standard western/UK for-profit oligarch owned propaganda outlet. They regurgitate what they are paid to say.

If their articles have absolutely NO relation to current geo-politics, or western power structure, we might get an almost unbiased article, but there are no ‘journalism’ or journalistic standards from that outlet - at all.

a source familiar with the matter told Reuters

Reuters are NOT an unbiased news outlet. They are the information outlet of the UK Oligarchy/elite, and they almost always use these wishywashy ‘sources’ when they are paid to lie/influence societal opinions on behalf of their rich-man club.

Not saying this couldn’t have some truth (propaganda often have a small seed of truth), but JPMorgan Chase and Leopold are in the same pro-Epstein/pro-Empire club and the Leopold kid’s losses doesn’t matter - at all…

Yes baby ! What a great page. Thank you, to this Brennan dude(tte) for creating it, and quick apolls to others for me primitively raging against every sign of this nazi/fascist club/product, and the whole nazi/fascist enshittification/normalization of ‘open source’.

One nasty surprise in secondary list: ‘suckless’ - oh well, can’t win them all :-(

Let’s post this great page as a standard reply to all posts/mentions of omacom/omarchy going forward, so all those not knowing, can be warned about what it really is !

[ait] (warning - AI topic tag) Dear anti-ai, if you can muster it, then please lower defences slightly for just a sec: It’s really time and energy consuming to follow and document this yucky movement as they are now heavily funded and work/move constantly 24/7. Brennan is a super cool Human, but can’t work on this always, all the time. We might need an active agentic system that also work constantly 24/7 to track the whole fascist/nazi network, all its players, update the lists and make it easier for ordinary good peeps to reject and boycott it all. Supervised by a human oc.

‘revolution’ 🙃

If AI Capitalism can effectively steal the work of others, and claim it as its own,

That’s just how Capitalism works. No need to attack the tool Capitalists use to do it. The ideology is a complete endowment of Psychopathic behaviour - suppress others to promote your self - win-lose.

Edit: To be fair:

However, it is important to recognize the villain in this story. It is Sam Altman and his company, not the AI

So almost there, but ffs - say it out loud: CAPITALISM is perpetual economic war and causes this behaviour always !

Looked (read) like a standard US/CIA instigated incident…

Anthropic is turning out to be an eager volunteer voice for the most harmful Fascist Empire in human history. Boycott those Uckers and everyone working for, or associated with them…

If you have used their product and it doesn’t contain any private identifiable info, then share the whole session-log/thinking to the netz ! F’ the Fascist Dario pig…

Actually, op’s prior thread was fair and perfectly legit, but met with dimwitted attacks that should piss off any sane and curios citizen scientist. He was met with the same ‘scientism’ as seen here, while there was no animosity in his original opening discussion.

Too many people here think they are scientist for dogmatically defending consensus issues they don’t understand/haven’t looked critically at - in a ‘Prof. Dave-like Scientism’ aggression against anything not confirming consensus. That is a terrible way to do and discuss science, and they are literally holding back science instead of helping it along. OP’s annoyance are completely valid, albeit surprising if peeps were not there in the original…

‘because the people responding don’t even understand what I am talking about.’

I had to re-read your comments and run it through AI to map it to how I personally understand the universe. I can see the dissonance of current SR interpretation claiming no global ‘now’, and the ‘instant’ outcome of the observer thought experiment requiring such a global now, as you describe them further up. I unfortunately can’t do Math at a sufficient level, and still have too many knowledge gaps - missing studies/results/theories etc - to form a coherent reply to your dissonance.

Tbh any of the 4 options - 1 + 3 alternatives - are all a bit wacky to me, but QM seems hard to escape from.

In my private (non-proved/non-consensus) model of the structure of the universe, I have invented a fluid-dynamics planck substrate that all fields are derived from, and that certainly have a global clock - a ‘now’, whereas all local systems (higher complexity/states) in that ‘bohmian-like lattice/soup’ have a derived slower speed - a local reality. However, the AI thinks my ideas fall somewhere in the slick/weaselly ‘philosophical’ group as I cant prove any of it, and thus just allow the apparent inconsistency to exist as is by assuming a global clock and just adding noise. Not good, but hey, it’s a work in progress… ;-)

Anyway, I suspect that you use AI to discuss ideas/theories, and the only issue it had with the selection of comments I gave it + my own thoughts, was that your Fraushiger/Renning interpretation might be too strong in the direction of a direct conflict with SR, but I suspect you have already discussed and re-thought that a few times, so just thought I’d mention it anyway.

Thanks for starting the discussion, forcing an exploration, and hence expanding my knowledge on the topic !

“believe” and “faith”

…absolutely also exist within the scientific space. For instance, I believe that 1+1=2, and I have faith that someone else have proved it - I believe those things as absolute facts, but I actually don’t know for sure - not even if all my senses tells me so. Also, all theories and ideas start out as nothing but a flimsy belief, an itch, a set of assumptions about stuff, a base of ‘personal truth’, so these words are absolutely part of this space, and one shouldn’t be called out if they have another interpretation of existing evidence/consensus. You have just been caught up in the public Merican ‘Science vs crazy God-fearer’ fight, gotten annoyed, and have lost the original querying nature of scientific exploration. All big discoveries have broken prior ‘facts’…

Don’t be the ‘Prof. Dave’ of a science forum… There is no God-w.shippers here right now, so relax man… smoke a huge joint and start doubting a little…