I’m not sure how it stacks up with the rest, but for web: https://mapcarta.com/

“Explore the globe with Mapcarta—the open map that unites the world through the collective knowledge of OpenStreetMap, Wikipedia, Wikidata, and other open projects.”

There is no rational humanitarian choice between the two futures. The 2077 scenario has to go away. Simple as that.

I, we, have to reject, boycott and fight all big proprietary AI Corporations and support, so they can’t create the 2077 - or ‘Blade Runner’ - version of our future. Global Communism is the natural state of living together when we can design the future we want. We can produce anything we need in an intelligent circular eco-system instead of hoarding/fighting for artificially scarce resources, while thrashing our whole planetary habitat at the same time. We can setup the environment and systems for everyone to prosper and flourish with the passions they have.

We no longer need to ‘compete’ at all cost, and we are not in a hurry for anything except solving the problems our current system generate. We don’t need to fight against everyone else for our basic livelihood and security - we just need common access to shared resources. We can do better than insects and other low-cognition organisms that can’t fathom, or redesign their world, and thus need to compete for survival - all the time…

Let’s choose not to behave like that any more.

I definitely support Deepseek in its cause, and reject proprietary Corporations and their narrow-minded insect-like doctrines and visions for our common future…

Earlier this year, the Army announced that it was “bringing back the war horse”.

Might just be because Ukraine ran out of vehicles, tried Horses, and in the few vids I’ve seen, Russian drone operators tried to avoid hitting the four-legged animals…

I kind of hope they’ll out-compete the archaic Western Nobel foundation. Nobel neo-liberals don’t do much good for Science at all, and the whole thing is soaked - ‘reaked’ - in classical western elitist wrappings…

‘it is always nice to support the home team.’

It’s a nice sentiment on the surface, but it’s a huge fundamental mistake to think that EU elite is not the same as the US elite. That means he is not escaping anything.

EU (+Nato) have all been US vassal-states since WW2, and while we have had a few socialist societies/movements around the 70’es, US Epstein class have been attacking them relentlessly in every way possible; militarily on Yugoslavia (the main socialist nation) and the rest of it, + information war on everyone from academia to media, to politicians, + support of local fascist Oligarchs + right-wing ‘free market’ belief-systems (free markets Capitalism are the most profitable ideological substrate for the Epstein Class - also in EU). All NGO’s are propaganda outlets for the Epstein Empire. They won’t change or touch the fundamental problem of rich pschopaths running our ‘free’ world through violence.

In fact, EU/Nato elite scum sold out their nations to the US elite - pure treason, but no-body knows, and no Capitalist right-wing politicians or journalists/media are telling the story, so people are happily ignorant, getting manipulated/nudged around and every day supporting all the US oligarch wars all around the world against pro-claimed ‘Red Dictators’, while living in the most controlled and unfree and violent nations in the world.

WE are the ‘Baddies’ - and have been so for around 500 years - We are still colonising and killing of pro-social people and nations around the world !!

The fact is that everything US tells our elite to do, is happening, and all this ‘Bad Trump’ + ‘Let’s isolate from US’ business is just a standard surface scam (a bit more this time, but irrelevant). US elite do this good cop/bad cop ALL the time, and then apologise/shame the bad cop and promises change in a ‘reset’, but it never comes. It’s a switcheroo routine. EU (and rest of Nato) have been ideologically, politically and economically colonised completely for approx. 35 years. There’s even a map from Soro’s ‘open society’ where they show how the information/conversion campaign have went. Nordic nations WAS very pro-social once, but are now just small mini-US pro-Epstein nations, and Baltic citizens are the newest addition, very propagandised, and everyone have little to zero understanding of who/how their nations and their lives are run, or even where to find critical information (Oligarchs own/can manipulate ALL the search/information portals in the western sphere - yes, also wikipedia!). There’s no Democracy in US (never really were), and that goes for EU/Nato nations also.

But worst of all, is that all EU citizens still think they receive real unbiased information from their media and their unbiased ‘Journalists’, but real critical journalists are not hired in a media-sphere owned/controlled by Oligarchs. Public media are hi-jacked by people placed there by the Oligarchs, so same rule apply. Result is that EU citizens are extremely ignorant, gullible, follows the Epsteins (+Trump+Biden+all the others) narrative to the letter, and as seen in this article, still believe their nations are more ‘Democratic’, ‘free’, and have more ‘free speech’ than the hyper controlled US - pure nonsense ignorance, and interestingly enough by its own, are all societal marketing-words from the Epstein class that doesn’t give a shit about any of that.

So, the main way to get out of the Western Epstein/Trump/Oligarch grip, is actually to use Chinese, or Russian server providers, but oc, our western Oligarchy have gone for a full scale information war on those ‘wevil autocracies’ = other nations that refuse to surrender/succumb to the western fascist elite - our top psychopaths. So all the EU/Nato manipulated citizens refuse to use servers from ‘those pesky evil nations with dictators’ - sigh…

Oc, none of the above is recognisable for someone who is living in the suburbs of the Epstein Empire - why should it ? Our western Epstein-elite overlords controls the Western citizens opinions by controlling access to information. ‘Control the information’ topples any ‘democratic’ or rational thought, and are one part of what is called “Manufacturing Consent” (the other being ‘control the key power-positions’). Because of that, they can then allow these mock-up ‘elections’ that doesn’t really threaten the capitalist substrate, or change anything fundamentally, and get the citizens to hate or love whatever the rich Epstein class wants them to hate or love.

This works great for them. The Western investigative/critical ‘Journalistic’ media sphere is gone, any pro-social political movement is gone, all ‘Cause-Activists’ are suppressed, and Symptom-activists: climate, color, sexuality, unions etc, allowed, and every part of our society are semi, to fully controlled by rich pigs in the same top-down hierarchical (dictatorial) Oligarch fashion as in US. All our infra-structure - from politics to information to data-centers and corps are the same Pschopath power structure as in the US, and no-one, not this article guy either, can escape it without understanding how it all works, and how insanely manipulated they are.

All information that describes the above DOES still exist, ARE still available, and ARE often shown by all those that have fought the Epstein fckers forever and ever. But these are often the ‘well-known’ wevil ‘far-left conspiracy-theorists’ (socialists and communists usually), so the now manipulated mob hates these anti-Epstein activists, and refuse to listen to them. Pity, that these tireless cause-activists are silenced and ignored by those that are most manipulated and therefore need it the information the most…

Are you beginning to see how it all works? …probably not, but someone has to try explaining once in a while. Good luck ‘rebelling’ by sucking rectum on EU ‘Epsteins’ instead of US ‘Epstein’ rectums… Go go, you manipulated EU/Nato symptom-activists, you will change …nothing…

Notice that these ridiculous ‘news’ are NOT immediately pulled apart by ‘The Guardian’ - even when it is completely obvious.

The Guardian are NOT an unbiased ‘lefty’ news-paper, but just a standard western/UK for-profit oligarch owned propaganda outlet. They regurgitate what they are paid to say.

If their articles have absolutely NO relation to current geo-politics, or western power structure, we might get an almost unbiased article, but there are no ‘journalism’ or journalistic standards from that outlet - at all.

a source familiar with the matter told Reuters

Reuters are NOT an unbiased news outlet. They are the information outlet of the UK Oligarchy/elite, and they almost always use these wishywashy ‘sources’ when they are paid to lie/influence societal opinions on behalf of their rich-man club.

Not saying this couldn’t have some truth (propaganda often have a small seed of truth), but JPMorgan Chase and Leopold are in the same pro-Epstein/pro-Empire club and the Leopold kid’s losses doesn’t matter - at all…

Yes baby ! What a great page. Thank you, to this Brennan dude(tte) for creating it, and quick apolls to others for me primitively raging against every sign of this nazi/fascist club/product, and the whole nazi/fascist enshittification/normalization of ‘open source’.

One nasty surprise in secondary list: ‘suckless’ - oh well, can’t win them all :-(

Let’s post this great page as a standard reply to all posts/mentions of omacom/omarchy going forward, so all those not knowing, can be warned about what it really is !

[ait] (warning - AI topic tag) Dear anti-ai, if you can muster it, then please lower defences slightly for just a sec: It’s really time and energy consuming to follow and document this yucky movement as they are now heavily funded and work/move constantly 24/7. Brennan is a super cool Human, but can’t work on this always, all the time. We might need an active agentic system that also work constantly 24/7 to track the whole fascist/nazi network, all its players, update the lists and make it easier for ordinary good peeps to reject and boycott it all. Supervised by a human oc.

‘revolution’ 🙃

If AI Capitalism can effectively steal the work of others, and claim it as its own,

That’s just how Capitalism works. No need to attack the tool Capitalists use to do it. The ideology is a complete endowment of Psychopathic behaviour - suppress others to promote your self - win-lose.

Edit: To be fair:

However, it is important to recognize the villain in this story. It is Sam Altman and his company, not the AI

So almost there, but ffs - say it out loud: CAPITALISM is perpetual economic war and causes this behaviour always !

Looked (read) like a standard US/CIA instigated incident…

Anthropic is turning out to be an eager volunteer voice for the most harmful Fascist Empire in human history. Boycott those Uckers and everyone working for, or associated with them…

If you have used their product and it doesn’t contain any private identifiable info, then share the whole session-log/thinking to the netz ! F’ the Fascist Dario pig…

Actually, op’s prior thread was fair and perfectly legit, but met with dimwitted attacks that should piss off any sane and curios citizen scientist. He was met with the same ‘scientism’ as seen here, while there was no animosity in his original opening discussion.

Too many people here think they are scientist for dogmatically defending consensus issues they don’t understand/haven’t looked critically at - in a ‘Prof. Dave-like Scientism’ aggression against anything not confirming consensus. That is a terrible way to do and discuss science, and they are literally holding back science instead of helping it along. OP’s annoyance are completely valid, albeit surprising if peeps were not there in the original…

‘because the people responding don’t even understand what I am talking about.’

I had to re-read your comments and run it through AI to map it to how I personally understand the universe. I can see the dissonance of current SR interpretation claiming no global ‘now’, and the ‘instant’ outcome of the observer thought experiment requiring such a global now, as you describe them further up. I unfortunately can’t do Math at a sufficient level, and still have too many knowledge gaps - missing studies/results/theories etc - to form a coherent reply to your dissonance.

Tbh any of the 4 options - 1 + 3 alternatives - are all a bit wacky to me, but QM seems hard to escape from.

In my private (non-proved/non-consensus) model of the structure of the universe, I have invented a fluid-dynamics planck substrate that all fields are derived from, and that certainly have a global clock - a ‘now’, whereas all local systems (higher complexity/states) in that ‘bohmian-like lattice/soup’ have a derived slower speed - a local reality. However, the AI thinks my ideas fall somewhere in the slick/weaselly ‘philosophical’ group as I cant prove any of it, and thus just allow the apparent inconsistency to exist as is by assuming a global clock and just adding noise. Not good, but hey, it’s a work in progress… ;-)

Anyway, I suspect that you use AI to discuss ideas/theories, and the only issue it had with the selection of comments I gave it + my own thoughts, was that your Fraushiger/Renning interpretation might be too strong in the direction of a direct conflict with SR, but I suspect you have already discussed and re-thought that a few times, so just thought I’d mention it anyway.

Thanks for starting the discussion, forcing an exploration, and hence expanding my knowledge on the topic !

“believe” and “faith”

…absolutely also exist within the scientific space. For instance, I believe that 1+1=2, and I have faith that someone else have proved it - I believe those things as absolute facts, but I actually don’t know for sure - not even if all my senses tells me so. Also, all theories and ideas start out as nothing but a flimsy belief, an itch, a set of assumptions about stuff, a base of ‘personal truth’, so these words are absolutely part of this space, and one shouldn’t be called out if they have another interpretation of existing evidence/consensus. You have just been caught up in the public Merican ‘Science vs crazy God-fearer’ fight, gotten annoyed, and have lost the original querying nature of scientific exploration. All big discoveries have broken prior ‘facts’…

Don’t be the ‘Prof. Dave’ of a science forum… There is no God-w.shippers here right now, so relax man… smoke a huge joint and start doubting a little…

Going against the consensus position requires greater proof.

It doesn’t require much proof to have doubts or to start a discussion about it, and the only real merit an opening idea must have, is if it is an interesting one ! This IS interesting, and there clearly ARE an internal discrepancy - whether OP misunderstands or its real. OP is NOT alone in this doubt. Sagan’s “Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence” is imho just scientific lazyness, and not good for Scientific discussions/exploration. We are not trying to decide on emergency ‘life or dead’ situations here, so ANY idea should be allowed, and discussed on its own merit.

But that are just my opinion oc…

I can’t cognitively follow your level of thinking on this, so I’ll refrain. But I see more and more thinkers getting frustrated by current inconsistencies in almost all fields of Science, and the ‘Scientism’ put out - as seen in the reactions here doesn’t help science at all. It’s like most science passionate people are still believing that they defend science against some religious cult, and therefore have double down on what is current weak consensus with a lot of inconsistencies. People are unwittingly slowing down scientific exploration to safeguard their own locked down beliefs.

I follow a few unconventional thinkers like Unzicker, M Levin and similar ‘rebel’ thinkers in many different fields, and while I can’t vouch for any particular direction of thought, write a critical paper or define what’s wrong with the current state of Science, I can see that current consensus and science/knowledge eco-systems are weak as fuck - all over the place, with weak assumptions, ignored inconsistencies, monetary interests, and a very rigid dogmatism in certain ‘fundamentals’ / consensus science. Fields are not really moving forward as they could’ve.

Sociology, psychology, economics and such fields are btw much much worse, and completely crammed with ideological thinking/consensus - just saying.

New and better science won’t come from those that follow mainstream consensus like religious dogmas, but from those that can see the weak spots and break out of that consensus-structure. Too bad you couldn’t find a descent level of intellectual exploration/discussions here :-(

Take your down-votes as a badge of honor !

I’m sure nobody needs to verify US tech lords private/for-profit claims/info-war - being an openly biased detective and judge at the same time, but in this case I can just LOL all over, and hope it’s true.

What a ridiculous Cnt Corporation that apparently are completely ignorant of how ALL Market behaviour works - It’s WAR you childish m*rons - expect War from others while you go steal some more data, Anthropic Uckers…

As long as the universe is evolving through cause&effect, ‘free’ will can’t exist. It doesn’t even matter if we imagine ‘random quantum wu’, or ‘Cosmic Consciousness’ we can’t control anyway, and would still influence ‘our’ choices by causality anyway. None of these studies remove causality from physics, and they profoundly AND childishly miss what the ‘free will’ debate is all about. We are organisms that evolved in an environment, all our genes are accumulated environment, and so environment is what triggers all behaviour in the end. Nature/nurture is all about environment…

The ‘free will’ question is shortly: ‘could you have done otherwise’, and no, you cant dismiss or change causality and invent a new fundamental universal ‘free will’ force that you can suddenly invoke with zero causality or energy costs, coming from nowhere at all - but still magically ‘controlled’ by you. You are an cosmic billiard ball - we all are, and we owe it to each other to create the environment that triggers the best in us - not fighting and blaming like cavemen would.

‘Being aware of what we are about to do’ follows exactly from causality as much as everything else in the universe. The Title of the study alone shows they didn’t grasp the problem at all. The only way to not be a part of causality is to remove your self from this universe. Good luck ideological/religious believers.

Religious thinking people like theist and Capitalists NEED ‘free will’ to defend all the harmful outcomes of their archaic beliefsystem, to be able to point to someone and say “My belief-system is not evil, and you the individual could just have done X - so you must be evil/lazy, and deserves to be punished/homeless” etc. They simply disregard causality/reality to protect their belief system and to hate/harm others that threaten that belief. They have been coping for as long as intelligent people have pointed out the obvious problem…

So, these studies never calculate the enormous amount of atrocities - throughout our entire evolution - caused by dumb humans believing all actions came from the individual. Revenge? check!, de-humanisation? Check! Jailing/killing ? Check ! Leaving ‘lazy’ people on the street bc they ‘could just have done X’? check ! Worshipping lucky/psychopathic ass-wipes that are in power ? check ! Religious shaming/punishment ? check ! You-name-the-atrocity ? check ! Always the same… Oh, and they never look at what belief-systems are mostly dependent on the belief…

The nonsense non-scientific belief in magical ‘free will’ is easily the most harmful belief humanity have ever had - and fair enough, also easily the hardest to recognise and dismiss until we have thought it through without emotions and archaic theistic/non-theistic belief-systems in mind…

But hey, there are always some right-wing ideologues (=anti-science belief-system), that are willing to pay for ‘proof’ of personal/individual responsibility instead of the responsibility of the environment, the culture, and their particular belief-systems, the ideology currently represented by eternal economic war - free unfair fight for your life against everyone else, forever.

These ridiculous coping studies will always show up and always misrepresent the issue. They have for many many years, and they never prove anything other than, that the archaic ‘individualist’ Capitalist and theistic belief-system still exists, and that they keep misunderstanding/misrepresenting the issue.

wtf want to know what those Nazis and Capitalist enshittifiers do…