• 9 Posts
  • 209 Comments
Joined 3 years ago
cake
Cake day: June 21st, 2023

help-circle





  • That’s my biggest issue with Fairphone and I’m typing this comment on one.

    The way it feels to me is that Framework actually cares about the principles it espouses at its core which is reflected in their design decisions, whereas Fairphone merely decided to target an underserved niche within the context of capitalism.

    Don’t get me wrong, Framework has their own issues, and I’m well aware of the problems that phone manufacturers face when it comes to hardware not being as interchangeable, but FP really hasn’t done anything on the hardware side to make uplifting a current phone viable.

    Something like keeping the same battery form factor so a higher energy density chemistry for the newer generation could be used on an older generation for example.


  • I still live in my home country and I also feel a similar way. I’m too weird to be normal, but I’m too normal to be weird. I can fit in anywhere and adapt to just about anything, but no where does it feel like I belong. It’s an existence that feels and is very liminal.

    It’s not anyone’s fault. I’m wired in a very peculiar way. There isn’t really anything I or anyone else can really do. All I can do is keep trying to meet people, do things I like, and trying new things I like and maybe some day something will click. Being about 1/3 of the way through my life though that’s not super likely. Could be worse. Could be better.



  • Well, that’s kinda what I’m getting at. The kind of tool used by a mechanic to install a cable management clip (that the shop manual states has a torque value) is a simple screw driver. I think I have seen seen some computer heatsinks that have listed a recommended torque value as well. Of course I have never grabbed my torque wrench for this either, I have always just gone with feel.

    To be clear, I’m not advocating that the manufacturer require users to buy a torque gauge of some kind and get away with it. It can be very helpful though to have a recommended torque value and sequence as a reference point though if they go the route of screws and gaskets. There are tons of other engineering solutions that are possible up to and including just not having an IP rating.

    I’m currently using a Fairphone 5 with the back cover removed and in a case and I haven’t ever had any issues.


  • Do we know know if requiring specific torque values would violate the regulation? That’s a genuine good faith question. The reason I ask, and what I was thinking of when I made my original comment was cars, and not the new bull shit we have. If I reference the shop manual for any of the vehicles I owned made in the late 80s to early 90s every fastener had a specific torque value specified for their installation from a lug but, to a cable management clip, to a head gasket bolt. Only one of those items I listed ever had a torque wrench brought out to be installed if they were worked on though by a mechanic or an owner.

    I’m just wondering if it might be a similar situation.


  • That is what gaskets are designed to do. Admittedly I haven’t read the regulations, but they could even go as far as making the gasket “single use”. Meaning the battery is user replaceable, but not meant to be constantly swapped. Removing the back cover could require replacing the gasket and using a specific torque value and sequence on the screws the same way you would on any other gasket interface meant to keep dust and liquids in or out.

    They could also potentially start waterproofing the circuit boards themselves with conformal coating the way they do with mission critical hardware that needs to still function even if there is some amount of water ingress. I’m not saying I’d be happy with that solution, but it wouldn’t surprise me if they did.





  • Viscerally.

    Well, kinda a combination of all of it, but when people are being greedy, selfish, ass holes instead of kind and fair and just trying to make the world or community a better place for everyone in it rather than just themselves or those they know there is an unyielding rage that begins to stir wants to MAKE them be fair and kind.



  • For any strike or boycott to be truly effective it needs to be maintained until the other side comes to some kind of agreement. A single day or two isn’t going to do much, and most of the population can’t afford to miss anymore work than that AND they are not socially connected to each other enough to be able to rely on one another for support and services while they are effectively locked out of the support and services they would receive from being able to pay for things and buy things.

    For a lot of people the two general avenue of choices are resist now and potentially lose everything now, or do nothing now and potentially lose everything later.

    I’m not necessarily justifying their actions, but it’s understandable.