Commiunism

My god, stop putting words in my mouth that I’m some kind of anti-communist as a whole due to not recognizing China as being Socialist. Sorry for viewing things through historical materialism and it not passing the sniff test I guess.

That comment was referring to the private model which, you’re right, is not the exact same in execution but it’s remarkably similar in principle given both systems’ state dominance in key economic areas with the co-existence of private ownership.

Fascist Italy did hold a significant portion of state ownership in heavy industry/shipbuilding/banking/infrastructure by 1930, so it wasn’t entirely driven by private ownership. China economy isn’t necessarily public either (at least depending on who you ask) given how it’s state owned with state acting as the surplus-extracting capitalist and having the final say rather than collectivized and owned by the workers.

Relax, it’s just a joke given how the image essentially is “communist is when many trains, capitalism is when one bad train”. Making a reference to Mussolini, one of the most famous liberals of all time is always gonna be funny

pretty much how I got into my first relationship lmao

It’s not even that, given how there’s a decent chunk of their economy owned by private individuals

It’s not a stretch, it’s outright false to call it communism or socialism, systems which necessitate the abolishment of capitalist mode of production (commodity production, private ownership, markets) and money. China, meanwhile, literally has billionaires, still produces things under capitalist mode of production and the only oddity it has compared to other Capitalist countries is partially nationalized economy (which Mussolini has also done, it’s not socialism by itself).

It’s just a social democracy.

Communism is when trains run on time

yes it is

Coal mining is awesome though, not sure why anyone would learn how to do coding instead

AI’s current form is shaped by capitalist interests just like most other technological advancement under this system, so it is in a way a byproduct of it, I agree. Still, a lot of the problematic parts that people complain about are consequences of the system’s inherent incentives, rather than something new AI creates.

The assertion that it’s some kind of a plot to destroy humanities such as arts is something I’ve always found to be questionable. Many Anti-AI people portray the creation of art as something people do purely for fun as a form of expression and different from labor, but that’s simply not true. Pretty much every artist has to rely on Patreon backers, commissions, streaming their process for donations to get by, there’s a direct incentive to draw what’s popular or makes money rather than what one wants to draw for fun. In other words, art has been commodified already which makes it no different from other kinds of labor and it is what AI art essentially tries to replace not unlike how textile mechanization replaced manual sewing for the masses. Despite that, hand-sewing for more niche clothes or items is still alive and well, and I doubt AI will end up killing off the purely-for-the-passion types of art, even if it sadly ends up decreasing the number of artists actively practicing their craft.

As for the ease of access, I fully agree - deepfakes, content for misinformation and the like have been on the internet for a while, and AI turbocharges the amount of these that can be produced making the situation much worse. It’s definitely one of the only good anti-AI arguments.

I swear, anti-AI people like this are the modern day reactionary Luddites.

It’s a pandora’s box that has been opened, you can’t simply just “Fight this! Stop telling them kill your soul!” - how does one fight AI exactly, by screaming into social media? Begging politicians to ban it or something even though the fundamental system we live in puts corporate interests above everything else (and for cases when they do go too far the best you can hope is a fine or some compromise)?

Also, it’s important to realize that all the evils attributed to the AI at the top aren’t inherent to the AI, but rather symptoms of our current system of commodity-production and wealth-accumulation. The blame is being pointed at the wrong thing here. let me give some examples:

• Slop isn’t inherent to the AI, low-effort content that’s quick to produce has been the meta of online content creation if one wants to maximize clicks/ad revenue for the labor used to create the video. Scams too - AI or no AI they’ve always been there. Sure, with AI there’s more of it but I argue the issue lies with slop and scams being viable in the first place. Same applies for the “Destroying the usable internet” point.

• Taking people’s jobs is part of technological advancement, and is a good thing given how that labor sector is now fully automated, meaning humans don’t need to work on it anymore and can use their gained time freely. However we live under Capitalism where this is a negative due to how fundamentally wages and skilled labor work. Be angry at the system for being nonsensical, not at a machine that alleviates labor.

• It’s accelerating climate change like any factory, and the problem comes not from the existence of the factory, but from the commodity model that leads to overproduction, and therefore creation of more CO2 than is necessary for human life to thrive.

• Misinformation and “Fascist” propaganda has existed without AI, and to even create it using AI there need to be people thinking about the message and spreading it - it’s not something AI can create autonomously and is rather a byproduct of liberal democratic system.

• Violation of privacy is up to social medias and governments, not AI’s.

Yet both are enemies of the workers, play into opportunism, the vast majority of their policies are dictated by business donors and maintain the system that most of us can agree is killing the planet and people. Any minor concessions (that have already been repealed by the way, wonder how that works /s) might make things a little bit comfortable, but is essentially nothing in comparison.

Stop rallying behind the puppets of capitalists, look past the liberal abstraction to see things for what they really are even if media says otherwise.

It depends heavily on what kind of commie you are actually.

• If you’re an ultra, you’re likely too busy shitting on other communists from the comfort of the armchair to look for a relationship

• If you’re a ML or Maoist, you probably don’t want a relationship to spend more time “reading theory” (watching youtube slop)

• If you’re a Trotskyite, you’re likely already in a sex offender registry

• If you’re a Bordigist, you’re playing hard mode when it comes to getting a relationship as you refuse to be a usufructuary traitor to the health of the species (you avoid drinking and smoking and all like the plague)

• If you’re a revolutionary Marxist who has read theory, then you’ll drive people away with your revolutionary aura

• If you’re a Marxist who hasn’t read theory, then you’re a liberal who shouldn’t have any problems finding a relationship

Instructions unclear, turned into an insufferable Marxist and now I don’t have anyone to talk to

That’s because taking a side in the culture war, tactically or otherwise, accepts it as a legitimate fight rather than what it is - a bourgeoisie distraction meant to atomize/divide the working class.

The correct course of action is not to participate but to reframe it in materialist sense. Racism/sexism/transphobia are not some spontaneous personal moral failings but historical tools of capitalist social control used to split workers, super-exploit marginalized groups for increased profit, enforce traditional family structures to secure birthrates for future workers to be exploited.

However, given how mass media constantly reinforces the culture war through the narratives and repetition, how emotionally driven it is by design and how anti-capitalist left that recognizes this fact is but a small minority means you’ll hardly see this kind of analysis in the wild.

Holy shit why is every .worlder so aggressive? I don’t know how you derived such a conclusion from my original comment, so let me explain:

Proletarians, soldiers, peasants and so on overthrew the Tsarists, and in this popular front of sorts proletariat had demands for the liberal provisional government, such as Russia’s withdrawal from WW1, land and labor reforms - things of that nature. The provisional liberal government failed to meet any of that (either via stalling or evading action), and they also didn’t withdraw from the war, and these reasons definitely contributed to November revolution.

Simplified to not make it too long, but that’s the core point - nothing to do with Marxist ideals.

Not OSRS either, where Scythe is one of the most powerful mega-rare weapons

1. The best way to ‘convert’ someone is for them to literally “figure it out” by themselves and start reading political theory via their own volition to grasp the world better rather than get their worldview from inconsistent, barely coherent liberal media slop. It’s impossible to ‘convert’ purely via a singular argument, just look at linux users trying to convert entrenched windows users.

2. The comment was a reference to how radicalized socialist workers (who’d make up military core and who had demands like worker councils, socialization of industry) would team up with liberal elements in a popular front type of way, only for this front after winning to immediately betray and sideline the worker’s demands. Historical examples: French revolutions, overthrow of Fascist Italy, February revolution in Russia, etc.

Revolution will be achieved through collaboration with liberal moderates (hitlerites)

Not surprising - traditionalist liberals attacking LGBT people because they dare defy the holy family structure is very common.

I doubt this has anything to do with religion though, apart from it being used as a convenient tool to add credence to the rhetoric. More people being born and raised via unpaid labor of their parents (usually mothers) means more future workers for the ruling class to extract labor value from, which usually means more economic growth and more bodies for when war breaks out.