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jfrnz@lemmy.worldto Progressive Politics@lemmy.world•Thank god the debt got blown up so that suppressors are tax free11·10 days agoWe’ll need luck… everything is fucked. But I stand by belief that we need fewer guns, not more. Even if it’s not a realistic outcome.
jfrnz@lemmy.worldto Progressive Politics@lemmy.world•Thank god the debt got blown up so that suppressors are tax free13·10 days agoI am arguing that being quieter can/does increase harm. Sure, not by a whole lot, I know it’s still loud af. But it does make a difference.
I’m not factually incorrect, and I’m not insulting people. I am being dismissive of assholes who just repeat “Hollywood myth” ad nauseam but I hope you can see how that’s warranted.
Never in a million years did I expect a progressive politics community to so vehemently defend guns and oppose regulation of guns and gun accessories.
jfrnz@lemmy.worldto Progressive Politics@lemmy.world•Thank god the debt got blown up so that suppressors are tax free1·10 days agoSure, but I just disagree in this case. It’s the same thing. Proliferating guns is the best way to prevent them from being banned. A gun owner never wants to give up their gun.
jfrnz@lemmy.worldto Progressive Politics@lemmy.world•Thank god the debt got blown up so that suppressors are tax free14·11 days agoSuppressors make guns quieter, have less recoil, and can improve accuracy. How does that not make a shooter deadlier? Regardless, yes, my answer is that it should be difficult or impossible to buy a gun or gun accessory. And I don’t care if you and the rest of Lenny thinks it’s impossible, I still think it’s the right thing.
Don’t start the “bigger fish to fry” argument, we’re not here trying to rank order all the bad things in the world.
jfrnz@lemmy.worldto Progressive Politics@lemmy.world•Thank god the debt got blown up so that suppressors are tax free11·11 days agoYou call me a zealot because you are a cultist. You are not willing to listen to reasonable arguments, and I am. You know nothing about me, my reason for hating gun owners, and you don’t care to ask or make any distinction between me and a clueless freshman.
I’m happy throwing baseless characterizations of each other all day. If you really want a discussion, you are going about it the wrong way.
jfrnz@lemmy.worldto Progressive Politics@lemmy.world•Thank god the debt got blown up so that suppressors are tax free1·11 days ago“Buy a gun so the fascists don’t kill you” is the exact argument the fascists used to proliferate guns.
jfrnz@lemmy.worldto Progressive Politics@lemmy.world•Thank god the debt got blown up so that suppressors are tax free11·11 days agoI hear what you’re saying, but don’t feel that participating in proliferating guns will make any meaningful progress towards my desire of a gun-free country.
jfrnz@lemmy.worldto Progressive Politics@lemmy.world•Thank god the debt got blown up so that suppressors are tax free11·11 days agoAustralia did a pretty good job with gun buybacks, although that wasn’t a total ban. I won’t pretend to have a comprehensive plan for how to go about it, but I don’t think that’s reason not to push for it. I don’t think it will be easy in the US, but I also have run out of patience and compassion for gun owners. I stopped caring about the 2nd amendment a long time ago.
jfrnz@lemmy.worldto Progressive Politics@lemmy.world•Thank god the debt got blown up so that suppressors are tax free13·11 days agoI don’t really believe in the concept of a considerate shooter that wants to protect my ears by using a suppressor. Maybe at a gun range, but not elsewhere.
jfrnz@lemmy.worldto Progressive Politics@lemmy.world•Thank god the debt got blown up so that suppressors are tax free12·11 days agoYou call me a zealot, I call you a cultist. I see no reason why all guns and gun accessories shouldn’t be regulated. Fewer guns really does translate to fewer gun deaths, and making it a pain in the ass to shop for your murder stick accessories would further discourage people from participating in the “hobby”.
jfrnz@lemmy.worldto Progressive Politics@lemmy.world•Thank god the debt got blown up so that suppressors are tax free14·11 days agoNo, I want no shooters.
jfrnz@lemmy.worldto Progressive Politics@lemmy.world•Thank god the debt got blown up so that suppressors are tax free13·11 days agoYou have no clue how many gunshots I hear.
Ban guns.
jfrnz@lemmy.worldto Progressive Politics@lemmy.world•Thank god the debt got blown up so that suppressors are tax free11·11 days agoNo frankly I think outright banning firearms, firearm accessories, and disarming police is a better use of our time. The US clearly won’t use guns to stop a fascist regime, so there’s no reason to allow people to own them.
jfrnz@lemmy.worldto Progressive Politics@lemmy.world•Thank god the debt got blown up so that suppressors are tax free14·11 days agoI can assure you that the man with 27 suppressors is playing with guns.
jfrnz@lemmy.worldto Progressive Politics@lemmy.world•Thank god the debt got blown up so that suppressors are tax free110·11 days agoI don’t want to give people in firefights assistance. If you’re willing to use a gun in a firefight, you deserve hearing damage.
jfrnz@lemmy.worldto Progressive Politics@lemmy.world•Thank god the debt got blown up so that suppressors are tax free111·11 days agoYeah, you’re not going to convince me that something that helps police and militaries shoot innocent people in poorly lit buildings is a good thing. Ban em.
jfrnz@lemmy.worldto Progressive Politics@lemmy.world•Thank god the debt got blown up so that suppressors are tax free18·11 days agoAll small arms should be banned.
They’re AirTags in shoes, dude. Kids aren’t learning to submit to authoritarians because of Sketchers, they’re just finding their shoes faster.