Yeah, pass has been discussed a bit in the thread already, but there are a few security issues that keep me from using it. Speaking of security, I had no idea the Android app was archived in 2024. That’s quite a long time without updates. Are you using a fork?

Thank you for sharing your workflow either way! Using a git based solution would be amazing.

I like the idea of using git, and there are people using it with their KeePass database (here’s an example), but I don’t think it’s optimal. If you want to use git, pass is probably the better option, but that brings in a whole lot of other problems.

I’ve started using Nextcloud to sync my database and it’s worked out fine so far. Though it would be nice to use something like git that I use all the time regardless, right now the whole bloated Nextcloud stack I have hosted only syncs my small password database haha.

I would get a router that supports an open source firmware or operating system like OpenWRT. Which one depends entirely on your use case. Getting a router from your ISP is fine if you’re allowed to and capable of flashing it, and if you trust them (I’m lucky that I have an ISP with a track record of fighting for their users’ privacy and integrity).

Like I said earlier, I didn’t say that you or anyone else should boycott Kagi. I merely informed everyone for transparency. It’s up to you how you compromise your morals, because compromise we all do. I can live without Kagi, and therefore I don’t need to pay them. If I can refrain from supporting war and shitty governments, I will do so. That includes avoiding American companies, which I do primarily thorough self-hosting alternatives to big tech software.

Either way, you’re a very exhausting person to communicate with so this will be the last time I respond to your comments.

Definitely!

Yes, boycotting American companies is a good idea.

Kagi pays Yandex to use their API.

Yandex represents about 2% of our total costs and is only one of dozens of sources we use.

https://kagifeedback.org/d/5445-reconsider-yandex-integration-due-to-the-geopolitical-status-quo/19

We have wildly different definitions of the word discrimination. The fact of the matter is that doing business with Russian companies funds the Russian war. There’s no away around that, and the fact that innocent Russian civilians have to suffer the repercussions of that is tragic, but it’s through no fault of the people choosing to boycott. Throwing accusations of discrimination in this situation is asinine.

Stop with this childish nonsense.

Discriminatory? Are you for real?

So anyone who does business with a Russian company is “sponsoring the Russian war”?

Yes. Russian companies pay taxes to the Russian regime, and the Russian regime uses that tax money to fund their war. Therefore, if you do business with Russian companies, you sponsor the Russian war.

Am I saying that means you shouldn’t pay for the service? No. We can’t boycott everything, but people should at least know where some of their money goes. Where you draw the moral line is entirely up to you.

It’s worth noting that Kagi, the company behind this browser, is sponsoring the Russian war against Ukraine through its business with Yandex.

https://web.archive.org/web/20251201130700/https://old.reddit.com/r/SearchKagi/comments/1gvlqhm/disappointed_in_kagis_decision_to_integrate_yandex/

Yeah, that’s a good point. There are still a few cons though:

1. If the server goes down (or your internet connection goes down), you can’t add entries to your database. Local changes aren’t allowed.
2. Bitwarden doesn’t support supplementing your passphrase with a key file.
3. The Bitwarden clients aren’t enitrely FOSS as far as I understand, the SDK used has a non-free license.

There are pros and cons in both alternatives, and there is unfortunately not a perfect solution. I like the idea and philosophy behind the KeePass format, so the increase in syncing complexity is worth it (for now at least).

I’m using NixOS and I have had no problems gaming. Getting the kernel from CachyOS is also easy enough, if you want that.

I managed to get it up and running now, thank you! It wasn’t intuitive at all, compared to using nextcloud-client on the desktop. I’ll try this for a while and see if it works for me.

I’m currently using KeePassDX and I’ve set up the Nextcloud server and downloaded the Android app. I’ll give it another shot. Can you explain more how you’ve set this up for yourself? What does CF mean, and what file manager do you recommend?

Thanks!

I’m talking about this issue: https://github.com/nextcloud/android/issues/19

This issue: https://github.com/nextcloud/android/issues/19

I’m looking for a selfhosted alternative, I’m not really to keen to place all of my password eggs into one company basket so to speak. But yes, other than that, Proton is a good choice (but I’d probably go with Bitwarden personally). Thank you.

Do you do it manually into e.g. protected json, or to a normal zip (the former doesn’t support attachments as far as I know)? Or have you found a way to do it automatically? One con that I’ve read about this is that backups from one version is not guaranteed to work on another version. Thanks.

I actually used pass many years ago and I quite enjoyed it, except for the fact that the entry names are presented in clear text. You’d also have to manage your GPG secret which I’m not a fan of (in fact, my password manager is how I usually manage GPG and SSH keys in the first place). On the other hand, I guess you should keep a key file on each device on top of a passphrase even if you use a KeePass database, so I guess that point is moot. There are also no good way to include attachments. At that point Vaultwarden feels more convenient, but the more I’m thinking about it, the more I’m warming up to the idea. We’ll see, maybe I’ll give it a shot again.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts!

Edit: I did some quick research and I found this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-qBChKG15Y

It brings up some pretty important security concern that still seem to be relevant.

Yeah, I have a tendency to modify my database quite often. I often make new accounts, add attachments, modify passphrases on older accounts, etc. I modify it several times a week. I might be an outlier, and in that case I understand why people don’t consider this to be a huge problem haha.