I haven’t written anything about excluding other genders. It’s only about a women centric place with additional moderation protection and administration and moderation by women (and yes, these can also be trans women or even men admins and mods if the group decides so).
But why excluding men or anybody else from participating, as long as they stay on topic?
Division is made when you divide the people.
Having a space for women by women isn’t division. It’s about creating a safe space.
Just in general already against the massive structural issues with Lemmy
What structural issues?
It is a group of people who like to constantly divide
Isn’t this normal human behavior? Still doesn’t mean that people are enemies because of splitting into different groups.
Ah give me a break. Can’t there be something that is designed specifically for women without you feeling excluded? Nobody says that you aren’t allowed to participate.
Why are you making it personal about me? I don’t give a damn what you do. Did you see the part of my last comment where I said that I can understand why women would want it?
You asked a question, I provided an answer. It is inherently divisive by definition, and that’s completely fine. Pull your head out.
“Are there any Lemmy communities FOR rape survivors and by rape survivors?”
And someone says “Well why do you want to create division? Shouldn’t rapists also have a chance to share their side?”
I’m not saying this is a realistic “turn the tables” but neither is yours. I will explain why.
Right now, despite whatever stupid fucking propaganda a select few assholes are hung up on, there are no systemic attacks happening on white people just for being white. At least none of any value or meaning. No, fringe groups don’t count because they don’t have power and never will have power in this system. However there ARE in fact many white-nationalist groups that ARE gaining power and voice, and attempting to return to an old hegemonic ideal of race. This isn’t a “that’s not fair!” issue, this is an issue about our very future as a diverse species sharing a world together.
I don’t think there should be ANY exclusionary spaces, but I do think there should be well-moderated spaces for people of similar ideas or demographics to share thoughts without being attacked for their identity. There should be spaces where people know they will be ejected for trying to sabotage the conversations.
Division and segregation hurts all of us, and if we want to fight it, we have to fight the fuckers who drive people to want to escape, we have to fight the trolls and monsters and bullies and nazis who make people feel afraid. Those are the ones trying to divide us, and those are the ones we shouldn’t be giving voice to.
White people are just frustrated equality means feeling burdens, pains, and other things equally. By all carrying a little, you can carry a whole lot. However, I’ve learned it comes from a place of comfort. They think the world around them is sound, that rules exist and structure permeates. They are but babies to reality. Even the christians among them do not understand the misery and suffering the bible speaks of.
Those that propagate these lies, they witness not injustices but a system they can exploit. They are the demons that keep us awake at night and fearing our safety.
Our species has a lot more vulnerabilities in our minds and hearts than we really want to admit to even ourselves… but there are wicked people who do know about them, and they will try everything to pry those vulnerabilities open and make us feel things so our brains latch onto stories to explain those feelings.
We have to be constantly wary of anyone who says things that make us feel powerful emotions, no matter who or where, this our future battleground. The next world-war will be waged internally.
It makes me happy that you too fear. It feels like maybe I am not alone in carrying all this pain, that it is worth continuing. That I feel the burden for people who truly want to see love and kindness proliferate.
This is a really, really scary time right now, if there was ever a time to know a general, baseline level of fear, it would be now. We’re entering a world where it’s really hard to tell what’s real, but we’re a population of creatures with brains designed by the last Ice Age and as a result, all our brains do is tell stories to make explanations for how we feel.
These brains are woefully inadequate for relating to a world with several huge, complicated issues intersecting, from technology/AI, to climate change, to political instability and misinformation.
I’ve been around a few, I’m getting up there in years. And I have NEVER seen a world more lost and confused and embattled in issues we’re incapable of sorting out as individuals. And it’s all going to get so much worse before it gets better.
Yah, you’re not alone, but you also can’t sit on your hands. Seriously, save money, put dry or preserved food away, bury some cash or gold. Learn to cook and shoot, get your passport updated, have a go-bag.
Within the next 10 - 20 years we’re going to have a global instability like we’ve never seen. Half of all animals will be facing potential endangerment, oceans will have a harder and harder time sustaining yields and the fresh-water problem is going to be a full-on emergency in many places. And on top of all this, we will have dictators and little tyrants throwing missiles at each other left and right, old alliances will crumble, wars will stack on wars, and machines will start thinking like people and controlling our weapons and our world. I have no idea what’s going to happen but I want everyone to be ready. America in particular hasn’t known the hardships of forced migration and famine and war and artillery barrages, so people here are going to have a hard time adjusting to how tough things may get.
Why would this be division?
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I haven’t written anything about excluding other genders. It’s only about a women centric place with additional moderation protection and administration and moderation by women (and yes, these can also be trans women or even men admins and mods if the group decides so).
But why excluding men or anybody else from participating, as long as they stay on topic?
Having a space for women by women isn’t division. It’s about creating a safe space.
What structural issues?
Isn’t this normal human behavior? Still doesn’t mean that people are enemies because of splitting into different groups.
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Oh, read the title.
“Are there any Lemmy/Mbin instances by women for women?”
Where is the division?
Where’s the division? It starts and ends with the “…for women” part.
By women, sure that’s not divisive at all but if something is being set up specifically for one gender it’s inherently divisive.
Don’t get me wrong, I understand why women would want it, but at the same time describing it as non-divisive doesn’t work.
Ah give me a break. Can’t there be something that is designed specifically for women without you feeling excluded? Nobody says that you aren’t allowed to participate.
Why are you making it personal about me? I don’t give a damn what you do. Did you see the part of my last comment where I said that I can understand why women would want it?
You asked a question, I provided an answer. It is inherently divisive by definition, and that’s completely fine. Pull your head out.
lol just change it for other noun
You see the problem here?
Okay now lets change it again.
“Are there any Lemmy communities FOR rape survivors and by rape survivors?”
And someone says “Well why do you want to create division? Shouldn’t rapists also have a chance to share their side?”
I’m not saying this is a realistic “turn the tables” but neither is yours. I will explain why.
Right now, despite whatever stupid fucking propaganda a select few assholes are hung up on, there are no systemic attacks happening on white people just for being white. At least none of any value or meaning. No, fringe groups don’t count because they don’t have power and never will have power in this system. However there ARE in fact many white-nationalist groups that ARE gaining power and voice, and attempting to return to an old hegemonic ideal of race. This isn’t a “that’s not fair!” issue, this is an issue about our very future as a diverse species sharing a world together.
I don’t think there should be ANY exclusionary spaces, but I do think there should be well-moderated spaces for people of similar ideas or demographics to share thoughts without being attacked for their identity. There should be spaces where people know they will be ejected for trying to sabotage the conversations.
Division and segregation hurts all of us, and if we want to fight it, we have to fight the fuckers who drive people to want to escape, we have to fight the trolls and monsters and bullies and nazis who make people feel afraid. Those are the ones trying to divide us, and those are the ones we shouldn’t be giving voice to.
I agree up to a certain point. You say moderation I say censorship.
I completely agree with you.
White people are just frustrated equality means feeling burdens, pains, and other things equally. By all carrying a little, you can carry a whole lot. However, I’ve learned it comes from a place of comfort. They think the world around them is sound, that rules exist and structure permeates. They are but babies to reality. Even the christians among them do not understand the misery and suffering the bible speaks of.
Those that propagate these lies, they witness not injustices but a system they can exploit. They are the demons that keep us awake at night and fearing our safety.
Our species has a lot more vulnerabilities in our minds and hearts than we really want to admit to even ourselves… but there are wicked people who do know about them, and they will try everything to pry those vulnerabilities open and make us feel things so our brains latch onto stories to explain those feelings.
We have to be constantly wary of anyone who says things that make us feel powerful emotions, no matter who or where, this our future battleground. The next world-war will be waged internally.
(And with missiles too of course.)
It makes me happy that you too fear. It feels like maybe I am not alone in carrying all this pain, that it is worth continuing. That I feel the burden for people who truly want to see love and kindness proliferate.
This is a really, really scary time right now, if there was ever a time to know a general, baseline level of fear, it would be now. We’re entering a world where it’s really hard to tell what’s real, but we’re a population of creatures with brains designed by the last Ice Age and as a result, all our brains do is tell stories to make explanations for how we feel.
These brains are woefully inadequate for relating to a world with several huge, complicated issues intersecting, from technology/AI, to climate change, to political instability and misinformation.
I’ve been around a few, I’m getting up there in years. And I have NEVER seen a world more lost and confused and embattled in issues we’re incapable of sorting out as individuals. And it’s all going to get so much worse before it gets better.
Yah, you’re not alone, but you also can’t sit on your hands. Seriously, save money, put dry or preserved food away, bury some cash or gold. Learn to cook and shoot, get your passport updated, have a go-bag.
Within the next 10 - 20 years we’re going to have a global instability like we’ve never seen. Half of all animals will be facing potential endangerment, oceans will have a harder and harder time sustaining yields and the fresh-water problem is going to be a full-on emergency in many places. And on top of all this, we will have dictators and little tyrants throwing missiles at each other left and right, old alliances will crumble, wars will stack on wars, and machines will start thinking like people and controlling our weapons and our world. I have no idea what’s going to happen but I want everyone to be ready. America in particular hasn’t known the hardships of forced migration and famine and war and artillery barrages, so people here are going to have a hard time adjusting to how tough things may get.
Sounds racist. You see the problem?
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