The real despair to feel here is about the massive sites like twitter and reddit, and how many people are doing this same act with even more effort, actual funding, actual headquarters and organized planning to manufacture conversations and debates, every single day, around the clock.

Lemmy probably isn’t going to push any needles in either direction, but the fact that we can see them even here, shows just how widespread the infection really is, and there are millions of people reading this kind of chaos and just rolling their eyes and deciding to not get involved, to not have an opinion, to let whatever happens, happen.

Honestly, if they had their time and power as long as they want it, they will go after interracial marriage after destroying gay marriage.

The gay marriage repeal would cause a lot of uproar but be quickly overshadowed by other chaotic policies and endeavors, and then we will be left with more problems, more people wondering what to do about their new statuses, maybe they will implement some new kind of federally recognized “partnership” so they don’t have to face lawsuits from every state, and then work later to actually abolish that as well, then the media cycle will move on and we all get used to a new, worse normal.

Then next they say “We have intelligence that foreign agents and terrorists are using marriage to infiltrate the country, so we are going to need every interracial married couple to register in a database so ICE can review the legal status of your marriage…” and the song goes on.

But I don’t think they can pull all this off. They want to, Miller self-pleasures himself every night imagining the despair and anger he would cause, but they are radically overreaching, the pushback against ICE broadly is only going to escalate and they don’t have nearly enough resources to do the entire Project 2025 handbook unless they just openly dissolve the government and seize assets but at that point the military would have to step in, because they are wisely sworn to the constitution and not a person. And the biggest reason they likely won’t get that far is the USA is fucking huge.

50 states is hard as fuck to manage, that’s why we have them, so we can have every state manage its own voting, it’s own tax contributions, it’s own delegation of representatives, etc. They are going to get creamed in mid-terms and Trump will die before his term is up and they won’t be able to hold the pieces together because MAGA is their political capital and they have no CLUE how to hold onto them, like sand through their fingers, it will all slip away rapidly.

Pam Bondi comes out on stage: “We have credible intelligence that antifa and radical muslims and trans terrorists are recruiting autistic people for their terror campaigns as they burn down more American cities. No, you can’t see the intel. Trust us bro.”

A hyperbolic version of potential events, yes, but they’ve gotten to this point already by edging the needle across the lines ever-so-slowly, so they will find a way to get people adapted slowly to the idea of seeing everyone who isn’t a white, straight, neurotypical christian male as a threat to everything we hold dear.

Why is it all these .ca accounts seem to be passing for violence?

Because they won’t face consequences, they are either astroturfing to amplify the worst voices of both sides of every issue, or just maple-flavored edgelords trying to incite something for the “nothing ever happens” crews.

User is 100% an astroturfer. They’re out in force, many of them with less noticeable histories because AI is good at writing these bots nowadays, but yeah, the most effective way of sabotaging democracy is to amplify and escalate the worst takes on both sides of every debate until everyone reading or watching is too burned out or confused to stay connected.

Thank you for calling it out when you see it.

I just want to say I’m glad the mods banned the user you’re replying to but left their comment up so people can see your reply.

AIPAC is reportedly about to pour tens of millions into this year’s mid-terms in the US to influence elections to preserving the current status-quo, including Democrats who have held their seats for like, the last three thousand years.

We have to flush every incumbent and start our government over. Please get out there and register and pour out the rotten contents of this old party of worthless liches and refill with new contents. It’s just a start. We have a vast amount of work to do, and you need to be focused on your local community leadership, those are the bricks that hold up the entire stupid tower of idiocy and evil we have now.

Okay but do you ever lose an argument?

I mean, people don’t broadly care that much, at least not nearly as much as we hoped. If people were really principled, his fascist support and political involvement wouldn’t have just tanked his whole company but landed him in front a prosecutor.

But the reality is he just had a slump in sales, which had as much to do with affordable and higher-quality competition as his dumb nazi salute and insufferable tweeting. The installation of nation-wide charging networks basically started the countdown to Tesla’s demise.

He pushed and launched the first wide-scale, accessible electric car with any level of support and reliability but without actually innovating and continuing to listen to consumers, he was not able to keep up with people’s buying choices and like with everything else in his entire, fetid life, he just stubbornly doubled-down and insisted that people want his janky-ass cars with their flawed touch screens and hidden door handles and death-trap engineering.

The DNC is rotten but it’s just a container. We pour out the rotten contents, refill it with new contents that hopefully don’t rot as fast.

(I say this to dissatisfied right-wingers too, ya’ll should also, there are plenty of conservatives out there really unhappy with this entire situation, if nothing else we can get them to vote against the current party and split votes in the coming elections.)

Why are we acting like a 3rd party isn’t viable?

Because there are no viable third parties? I mean, it’s not complicated. What we want and what the system allows for are very different things unfortunately.

We are very far from a third party unless someone AMAZING comes on stage and somehow secures a massive amount of funding, which isn’t impossible and I would be first in line to support such an effort, but I simply don’t see it happening unless we get some kind of charismatic Robo Space Mamdani who was also born in the US and somehow can secure millions and millions of dollars for campaign funding, and can also make capital comfortable enough to not sabotage their campaign.

We just don’t have a democracy strong enough to support this kind of change, the US is run by forces of capital.

From what I understand, percentage of abstaining registered voters have remained relatively consistent, but overall turnout spiked higher in 2020 and 2024 since the 60’s, and that higher turnout would not have impacted these elections to a different outcome.

While I take all polling nowadays with a shovel full of salt, there are some massively important details in this Pew study from exit polling that aren’t being talked about enough.

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2025/06/26/behind-trumps-2024-victory-a-more-racially-and-ethnically-diverse-voter-coalition/

I lived in a rural area and the nearest phone for emergencies belonged to one house that lived a quarter mile away.

The owner of the phone got hooked on WoW on dial-up at some point and basically ended the party line for everyone.

If it’s a personal friend group and we’re talking about life or sharing things or watching a piece of media, or the meeting is about each other, sure, makes sense to show up and “be there.”

When it’s gaming acquaintances and we’re just playing a game, it feels odd and out of place.

Ah, so your idea is a dead-man’s-switch, clever.

I used to basically do it. I was talking to young guys online since before Reddit, and then when Reddit blew up I was right there as well on the frontlines of a huge relationship-related subreddit doing the same thing. I never fancied myself an expert, but I am good at communication and a lot of these guys just needed help being explained how dating and relationships “work” and expect some kind of proceduralism around it.

You can scream until you’re blue that it’s not a system with rules and levers you pull, but if someone is neurodivergent, they’re going to be stuck on “X leads to Y, which means Z” mentality about relationships, and then they will try to apply that thinking in real life, meet rejection or embarrassment and get really bitter and angry. Right wingers and grifters (but I repeat myself) seized onto this with a thousand different “systems” erupting like volcanos in Iceland, covering whole swaths of people with bullshit “redpill” and “PUA” bullshit.

I tried. I really did. I had great success with the guys I focused on, but for every self-described incel who thanked me for helping turn their lives around, 30 more were waiting behind him, each angrier and more foul-mouthed than the last.

It was too much, and it’s extremely exhausting.

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I agree, the app makes it very easy to share and collaborate and make communities around sharing content, so I think there’s going to be a vacuum that will get quickly filled by up-and-coming companies trying to compete on ground floor.

Took me a second, then I remembered the sound.

We can start a scam like carbon-credits, and sell off our extra coffee usage to others who don’t drink as much!