This is 100% true, important, but not an argument against no kings.
We need black block, we need miltant protest camps outside ice facilities, we need people de-arresting ice’s intended victims, we need preprations for a general strike, we need direct action AND we need large scale peaceful marches.
We need radicals AND we need coddled middle class dems who we disagree with on many points but who also oppose fascism.
plus this is the perfect opportunity to organize to go literally talk to them.
if not us, fascism will find a way to, like we’ve seen in the past so often.
not all of these people are militant irreducible libs.
They must first realize their party is part of that fascism they oppose
Yeah, I feel like a lot of arguments like OP is coming from non-americans who don’t understand how to organize from scratch, with paranoid people, and neighbors you can’t really get to know because everybody’s on a yearly lease.
Like, okay, sure I’ll go punch a cop. Then I get shot, and my death is supposed to… make a magic anime shimmer and lift the evil from the land? Going on strike without a union is just called getting fired.
I don’t understand how direct action is supposed to work if we don’t build the community first?
Basically, we need to be like the French.
AND we need coddled middle class dems who we disagree with on many points but who also oppose fascism
But they don’t oppose fascism, they just don’t like it being tacky and causing a scene. They’ll slit your throats from behind just like the SPD in Germany.
I don’t like how you stated that, but I partly agree. The ones yelling from the back like the dems telling you that we need to just chill out and move forward are the same ones profiting from the status quo, they just don’t beat the shit out of you or shoot you in the street the way the fascists do. They should not be trusted, their spineless inaction allowed the fascist and corporate takeover in the first place.
Problem is most people have been convinced that we shouldn’t end imperialism, only that their team must become the rulers of the empire.
Rallies are where you go to learn how to be a good leftist and get used to resisting the state. And they’re where you go to tell leftists about serious events they might want to attend. And they’re where to go to threaten politicians with serious consequences if they don’t do the thing.
How many decades have to go by before those serious consequences kick in?
I recall a story of tens of thousands of black people marching towards Washington and the government panicking, shortly before the Civil Rights Act was passed.
You recall wrong because the beginning of the civil rights movement started in 1945. And the Civil Rights Act was only passed because they were engaging in economic violence, like general strikes, the Montgomery bus boycott, things that caused an impact to profit.
Just be sure to guard against yourself against surveillance and tracking.
Also, yes, No Kings won’t change anything at the national level. It can have some good at the local level though, which is the only sphere where you or I have any power anyway. Hell, my city banned ICE from being able to lease or zone facilities for the next five years. Mine is also one of the few cities that had the balls to imprison a killer cop, though our Republican governor pardoned him a year and a half into his sentence.
Isn’t that kinda what brought down British imperialism and apartheid south Africa? That and boycotts
No Masters.
It’s good for my mental health to do so.
