• Section Ratio General@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    2 个月前

    I do take issue with this. Indigenous hunting practices are not really all that sustainable, they’re just done in smaller amounts so the waste is less visible. We have the opportunity to use technology to live more sustainably in our environment; corpos just don’t want to invest in that.

    • Rothe@piefed.social
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      2 个月前

      Not to mention that “indigenous” hunting practices was the cause of extinction of numerous species like the mammoth and similar big mammals.

      It is idealisation of primitivism, which is not the answer to our problems in any way.

      • Klear@quokk.au
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        2 个月前

        It may not solve our problems, but have you considered the benefits of feeling smug as hell?

  • duncan_bayne@lemmy.worlddeleted by creator
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    2 个月前

    This is the “noble savage myth” dressed up for modern times as the “ecologically noble savage myth”.

    Colonialism is bad, yes.

    But indigenous people didn’t “live in balance with nature”. Consider e.g. the massive ecological changes wrought by indigenous Australians, Easter Island, NZ Maori, etc. Megafauna extinction, massive deforestation, etc.

    Human beings are human beings, regardless of their level of technological progress.

  • FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world
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    2 个月前

    This is so condescending

    It’s also bullshit. There are plenty of examples of indigenous people destroying ecosystems

    It’s humans.

    All humans.

    • Signtist@bookwyr.me
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      2 个月前

      Honestly, it’s life in general. When trees first evolved, they were essentially an invasive species; nothing at the time could break through the lignin that makes them so tough, and so nothing could eat them for millions of years. They would grow, absorb CO2, die, and just lie there until they got buried, then more would grow in their place and absorb more CO2 over and over until the global levels dipped and the planet got colder, causing an ice age.

      Devastation happens every time a species ends up in an environment without any natural predators or other mitigating factors. Life doesn’t have a point where it looks around, says “yeah, that’s enough” and stops growing - it needs something to keep it in check. Humans just change way faster than any other life ever has, so the problematic traits become more and more problematic, and the natural checks and balances of the world are way too outpaced to do anything about it.

  • Cypher@aussie.zone
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    2 个月前

    Terrible take on many levels, this assumes those indigenous populations would never have undergone their own industrial revolutions.

    For reasons ranging from ‘noble savage’ to racist implications that they couldn’t if they tried.

    • punkisundead [they/them]@slrpnk.net
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      This is such a gross misreading of the post lol

      It literally says “Indigenous people have shown” and not something about them having some innate characteristics that result in their living in balance with the earth. It should be obvious that their idologiy and culture is meant by the post, as it is exactly that what other can actually learn from many indigenous peoples and it is alao exactly what colonialism is actively destroying

      • Cypher@aussie.zone
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        2 个月前

        Absolutely not, without colonialism and given enough time Indigenous peoples will always industrialise to the greatest extent possible given the circumstances.

        Industrialisation is in direct opposition to this idealised ‘harmonious’ living with the land.

        You’re falling afoul of the noble savage fallacy in assuming that these people would not have changed their culture over time, given enough time, and have industrialised themselves.